This guy brought up a good point on the SFWD class...

http://www.thespeedlounge.com/...st485

 

What "major sponsors" is he talking about?

 

XACTLY TO THE T.... "AS FAR AS YOUR WALLET CAN GO BUDDY"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What "major sponsors" is he talking about?</TD></TR></TABLE>

he is talking about you - they are all running scared Art.

 

I think the sponsors aren't the issue. Money is going to be there no matter if its coming from sponsors, people with good jobs, or just rich kids.

I think the most important thing is keeping the class a true street class.

 

Hey, I work hard for my money. No one should be scared of me, seriously. There are more people in the class to worry about.

 

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I think the most important thing is keeping the class a true street class.</TD></TR></TABLE>



for those that want it bad enough they will find the money, it isn't necessarily big sponsors at all, in my case yes i have some companies helping out but for the most part i put a lot of what i earn into the car, have a great group of guys to work with on the car so that eliminates labor costs, and an understanding wife

if you really want to contain the class, it will be the rules responsibility to do so - stricter rules will slow the cars down - i am not complaining one bit, i love the way the class is setup and can't wait to compete for another year in it


James Innes

 

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for those that want it bad enough they will find the money, it isn't necessarily big sponsors at all, in my case yes i have some companies helping out but for the most part i put a lot of what i earn into the car, have a great group of guys to work with on the car so that eliminates labor costs, and an understanding wife

if you really want to contain the class, it will be the rules responsibility to do so - stricter rules will slow the cars down - i am not complaining one bit, i love the way the class is setup and can't wait to compete for another year in it


James Innes</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yay! Me too.. Add a weight penalty because I am short and skinny. lol

 

to infinity---- and beyond

 

just do what you can do with th money you make thats all i can say

 

The racers running at the top of the SFWD or T4 class didn't get there over-night. Don't believe the class is unfair because your not winning races your 1st year . Yes it takes money, TIME and serious dedication to be running a 9 second 4 cylinder. If you stay dedicated with your money and time things will get better every year. My son started racing the Prelude 3 years ago - an engine swap and 50 shot of nitrous resulted a 14.6, 2 years ago added a turbo resulted in 12.2 last year spend more money 11.2 and this year it will get better again. Hay maybe we will get our own trailer after borrowing for the last 2 years. It all comes together with time. I personally view this class as the stepping stone into the Pro classes for those who stay focused. So to the point how far do we take it? -
As long as its safe and the rules are followed - Time will tell.
Steve Sr.

 

Our sportsman class is not much diff. than the domestic NHRA Sportsman class. It's all about hardwork and money. I work with two of the best NHRA bracket racers in the country, Ron and Lincoln Morehead. They spend 18k just on the motors to run brackets in Super Stock.If you can afford to spend the time and money then go for it. Imagine we had to run brackets instead of heads up. They don't have a choice unless they go pro.

 

This is really a good question. alot of people really complaint when theh hotrod class started to get out of thier buget this is a fact as we can see no more 16 cars field in hotrod.i don't know what people are think out in the sport compact racing field but i am going to say a few things and i hope nobody get's offended. this class was made for the people that would like to race in head up classes but can't travel the entire nhra tour(at least that's what i understand). you should be able to drive your car to thetrack put on a set of slicks, run head up, have fun and drive back home but some people think they should have a semi-hodrod car. i think that if you want to run and win that's fine,so does everybody else but what nhra want's to see is close head up racing so that the racers and fans can't enjoy it. i think the rule changes made by nhra are for the best of this class so i can't continued to live.what racers don't see is that when a rule change is made is the same for everybody or to make it more of a level playing field.i think we should give these changes a chance to see if it makes the class better and then if it doesn't all the racers get together and complaint or advice nhra as to what they can do to make it better. that's just my opinion but what do i know about racing.

 

ill get there one day hehe i spent $20000 grand in my project. alot of that are trial and error 4 engine's 5 trannys later and after 2 year i finally got the money to build the motor. i spend more time fixing stuff then i do sleeping hehe. ill work my way up to t4. you got to realize that those people running 9's have been in the game a long time. money is everything in this sport

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vaporboy12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">money is everything in this sport</TD></TR></TABLE>

TRU!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vaporboy12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i spent $20000 grand </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow, that is 20,000,000!!

 

haha you know im a baller haha im keepen my urban legend under cover for this year and ill bring it out 2006 season hehe sike power street class for me got to start some where. not making the arturbo powerband yet

 

I could be wrong but from what i've seen so far the fastest cars in the class are not the most expensive. I believe someone was selling the 2nd fastest car in the class for 16,500 earlier this year too.

 

snap on kills my pay check every week no money for car parts

i think it still for sale but yeh true if i was spending all my money on fixing broken **** then make i could make some better power but that how cars go hehe by the way anyone that need oem acura parts at wholesale let me know hehe

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bean-Burrito &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well its true i'm not a bank and having to buy drums of c16, Spark plugs, Oils, and etc... which i continously change and maintain before everytime i go to the track almost after every run. 5 dollars here and there adds up and I aint got one of them big *** enclosed trailers like Jason Hunt shows up in and neither does most guys during the week most of you guys are no different from me hustling for that paper and whatever free time you got its put towards the car. As the saying goes you cant beat a trailer</TD></TR></TABLE>

What big *** trailer do you see jason rolling up in? The one that 2 cars came in every weekend because it is cheaper to pay for gas in 1 truck than 2 trucks? We have both been racing our cars since 1998 (I know alot of other people have been doing it alot longer). Jason used to drive his car to the track back in 1999, bolt slicks on and run 11.4s then drive that **** back home. He then shortly after upgraded to a tow dolly. What about my big-*** 16" open trailer that I hauled my car around on pulled by my buddy's leased truck all year? Jason and myself both have jobs, we've both worked hard for everything in the cars you see. I used to race every weekend making $10 an hour (gas, nitrous, blowing **** up) and have racked up plenty of CC debt along the way, have never complained once. Hell I used to not even qualify at NOPI/NIRA events with the del sol, but still gave it my all just to try and get the 8th spot on the ladder, and if I didn't, ran brackets. Ask Jason how many times he got spanked by Jeff Hill, Zex Man or the RIPP Integra back in the day, did he complain? I don't know why I'm rambling but the people that have been around, know the deal. I'm just tired of people acting like we go to the races with a 200K car and that is the only reason we have had a little success. In the words of NRG Tech "think outside of the box". Hard work and dedication puts you in a postition to win races, whining and complaining does not.

Brian

p.s. this is not attack on you benzo...just seen alot of posts like this lately
p.p.s I was ready to sell the car for $14K, no takers so now it's a beater car


Modified by XXXRacing at 6:37 AM 2/18/2005

 

people work there *** off to get where they are

 

werd! I was going to keep my comments to myself about the ghetto trailer rolling up with the boards in the door to hold the cars. The astroturf, the old snack bags and other wrappers laying everywhere. Stickers here and there of various things.

It is not just money that put Jason and Brian where they are going this year, it has been alot of hard work that I even know about, and I don't know the half of it I'm sure! Some of the crap I saw Jason do last year was beyond even me, and I've did some retarded stuff to make a race.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XXXRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What big *** trailer do you see jason rolling up in? The one that 2 cars came in every weekend because it is cheaper to pay for gas in 1 truck than 2 trucks? We have both been racing our cars since 1998 (I know alot of other people have been doing it alot longer). Jason used to drive his car to the track back in 1999, bolt slicks on and run 11.4s then drive that **** back home. He then shortly after upgraded to a tow dolly. What about my big-*** 16" open trailer that I hauled my car around on pulled by my buddy's leased truck all year? Jason and myself both have jobs, we've both worked hard for everything in the cars you see. I used to race every weekend making $10 an hour (gas, nitrous, blowing **** up) and have racked up plenty of CC debt along the way, have never complained once. Hell I used to not even qualify at NOPI/NIRA events with the del sol, but still gave it my all just to try and get the 8th spot on the ladder, and if I didn't, ran brackets. Ask Jason how many times he got spanked by Jeff Hill, Zex Man or the RIPP Integra back in the day, did he complain? I don't know why I'm rambling but the people that have been around, know the deal. I'm just tired of people acting like we go to the races with a 200K car and that is the only reason we have had a little success. In the words of NRG Tech "think outside of the box". Hard work and dedication puts you in a postition to win races, whining and complaining does not.

Brian

p.s. this is not attack on you benzo...just seen alot of posts like this lately
p.p.s I was ready to sell the car for $14K, no takers so now it's a beater car


Modified by XXXRacing at 6:37 AM 2/18/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>



Ah man, all this time I thought you had it easy. Just goes to show you hard work pays off. Nothing but respect to you and Jason.

art

 

I take nothing away from jason, brian, or any other SFWD racer. I just think that the class is supposed to be grass roots. that means to me and probably most people it is a true street car. yes their cars are registered, but Brian how ofter did you throw street tires on the car and take it for a drive on the street, take it to a meet with friends, or out to dinner? I think somewhere in there trying to be competitive you lost what the car really is and what you began working on it for. like you said jason used to drive his car to the track and put the slicks on it then take em off at the end of the day. that is a real street car and though I don't know you personally I think that is probably what you started out as wanting.

I am sorry I kind of picked you and jason out but I know everyone knows you on here and can see my point. I am not at all taking anything away from what you have done and what you accomplished and the hard work you put in, but the point I am making is that your car isn't a street car other than the sticker from the state.

IMO power street is the closest thing to a true street class we have and that is why I plan on running in that class at MIR and Norwalk and if I do well maybe some other events.

In Brians defense money doesn't make you fast. dedication does and hard work and most of all networking with sponsors or even friends that will help you out in a second. that is what keeps you winning.

 

I didnt read all the posts so i dont noe if anyone else has said this, but this is my personal opinion...

Sport FWD is a stepping stone to advance into Hot Rod / Quick class..
We all race by the same rule book so i dont see it being unfair to anyone..
If you want to race in a street class, not a sportsman class try writing to the NHRA, if enough people write them asking for a true street class, maybe they will open one.

This sport is very expensive, and if you are limited on your budget, maybe its not for you to compete in this class... It took me a few years of saving just to get a start in this class and i'm still spending alot of money to attempt to be compeditive...

Mike...