***********PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS!!!!!!!!!***********

In my previous thread "Another Build....The Sequel," things started to get off track as they always do due to a few members on this board that stir up drama unintentionally and then tell me that everything is my fault. This thread needs to be read and feedback would be appreciated to show those whom are stupid enough to believe any of this being my fault are wrong, and that THEY are the ones that need to accept it, and not I. In the previous thread, Tony1 got my back due to AcuraFreak starting **** again, but than deleting his post. So, let's start from there.

I am taking Tony's advise and letting it rip to clear up whatever bullshit Bucky, aka AcuraFreak, said, and what anyone else thinks because I am tired of the he said/she said bullshit! Bucky you say that everyone at Velocity Performance (Formally VSV Performance) is tired of me being a "cry baby" or tired of hearing my "sob story?" You know, I've talked to Brad and Stoney about the whole incident and they haven't said **** about being tired of anything. But to clarify everything, and since you continue to say I am a "drama queen," let's see what everyone else thinks about the situation and then go from there because it's amazing that only you and Velocity Performance feel this way, and not one other person has said that anything was my fault.

-Late March 04-1994 JDM b16 motor has a custom turbo kit put on there and tuned by Stoney at VSV Performance to 12lbs making 306whp/216ftlb of torque @ 12psi.

-Late May 04-The B16 is done with rings just fried, and no time to find a decent motor. So, DiRep972 helps me find another B16 and we get it in there so that the car is running again. After a retune by Stoney at Velocity Performance, the motor made 311whp/215ftlb of torque @ 12psi.

-July 30th, 04-The B16 is on it's last leg, and I finally complete my B16 build and have it all installed and tuned. After another tune by Stoney at VSV Performance, the car made 415.22whp/257.61ftlb of torque @ 17lbs . I was happy as could be. The motor felt good, I was out racing it, beating cars I never thought I would beat, and having the time of my life.

-October 10, 04-Something is going on with my motor and we are not sure what. A thread is made:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1019952
That stirs up a lot of "drama." **Pay attention because this is where it gets interesting** Now, when we were tuning the Built B16 Stoney asked me how high I wanted to run the car on pump gas and I said around 16lbs. Stoney suggests that everything was looking great on the dyno and that he thought it'd be safe running 17lbs. Trusting Stoney I said that was cool and we did it making the above numbers. When I asked Stoney what my timing was at I was told 18 degrees. Well, here are my maps-->





Now you tell me where it says 18 degrees of timing? When I asked VSV about it, they told me that my base timing was 18 degrees and not 16 degrees because of something going on with my ignition. I was then told that the whole reason that my motor blew was because my turbo went bad causing the motor to run rich, which caused this to happen to my pistons. Ever seen it before??? And these were JE 10.5:1 Pistons... -->




Stoney also tried to tell me that he never said to run 17lbs and that he suggested only running 14lbs, but said that I was persitant on making 400whp. I wanted the numbers, but not with the risk of the motor blowing. So, to make an even longer story short, I paid to have the motor rebuilt and retuned, and hoping that everything would be done after this as far as motors went.

-Nov 04-New motor is assembled and installed into the car. On the dyno, there was an excessive amount of blow by coming out of the head. I asked Stoney about it and he told me that it was simply the motor breaking in and nothing to worry about. Two weeks go by and the blow by is still there, and now the motor has developed a small tapping sound. DiRep972 and AVATAR had heard the noist which almost sounded like a valve tapping, but were not sure what it was. I take the car to Stoney and have him take a listen. He says that it's probably just a mild case of piston slap, and that it's nothing to worry about.

-Dec 28th, 04, 11:30PM-After going to a car meet and talking to some people, some wanted to go out on the highway and make a few pulls. I was on my way home anyways and decided to go out and watch. Long story short, the car dies on me, pull into a gas station, and the car will not start. The car is towed the next day to Velocity Performance, and a week later the motor is disassembled and I was told that the rings were trashed, and that I had spun the bearing in Cylinder One. Now, 3 days prior to the motor blowing I had checked the oil, which was a quart low, so I topped it off. After learning everything about the bearing being spun, and whom was going to pay for what considering that the motor I had received was never assembled properly, Stoney told Brad/Daren that there was only 2 1/2 qts of oil in the motor, which is close to impossible. Long story short, after many phone conversations with Brad/Daren, the car was finished with a new motor that was paid for by Velocity Performance on Feb 4th, 2005.

-Feb 14, 05-After tuning sessions with Tony1 and St00pid we notice that the car is not making power over 7500rpm and either the cam timing was off or my flexpipe collapsed. Now, the reason we thought these two things was because originally when I had spun the bearing Andrew (bangingearz') had suggested that Stoney check the cams and head to make sure that no further damage had occurred to them due to the bearing leaving excess trash behind that could have been carried up through the head. Stoney told me he had examined everything and that everything appeared normal. Well, on Feb 14th while out at Norwood's shop with Tony and Andrew, we pulled my valve cover and what do we see??? My Exhaust Cam Scored to **** on Cyl 1 and going flat on all 3 lobes (the middle one especially) and some scoring done on Cyl 2. My Cam Rockers on the exhaust side on Cyl 1 are scored extremly bad, and Cyl 2 and 3 had minor scoring. Now where did this scoring come from? Well if you put 2 and 2 together it would be the spun bearing. I called Velocity to talk to Stoney about the situation and got a hold of Jarrett. I explained the situation to Jarrett and he told me that he never heard of a Honda cam going flat, but he has heard of Nissan cams, etc doing that. He told me that he would talk to Stoney and have Brad (92sleepyhb) call me back and let me know what they thought. Well that was on Monday and I haven't received one email, phone call, or PM about the situation. Where I stand is that I had to purchase new Cams and Cam Rockers from a friend and once I receive them I will have to reinstall them and retune.



Brad I tried to prevent any drama from happening buy PM'ing Bucky because it always seems like any post that Bucky makes in my threads turnout for the worst and start **** up. Go back and look at any one of my thread's where there has been a question on what is going on with my car and it always ends with someone fighting, whether it was Jarrett/Mase, Bucky/Andrew, Bucky/Mase etc. It all starts because something is said and someone else takes it the wrong way. In my previous thread Bucky posted this:
-"Nice...Lots of drama...But nice Glad it all worked out for ya !"

Those knowing me personally and knowing all the drama with the car and with the shop that has gone on, they could interpret this as something different. So, hoping to prevent any drama from occurring I PM'd Bucky asking him what he meant by everything and explaining how some took his posts. Well here....read for yourself:

(10:01 AM 2/14/2005) Bulldogg83: Bucky,
I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish by these comments:
-"And Stone is the man ...as are others listed !"
-"Nice...Lots of drama...But nice Glad it all worked out for ya !"

First off I never said that Stoney wasn't the man, and in my first post I thanked him for what he had done for me just as I had thanked the others.

Second of all, posting in the thread about the drama just opens a whole new door for **** talking on the thread that could be avoided. Why couldn't you just put "glad it worked out for ya" because someone is going to ask what drama happened and then it will get into this huge post about how Stoney got pissed off and I felt like I betrayed him by going to Tony when it was nothing personal, just business, and then it'll start this whole other debate that really isn't needed.

I know that you are Stoney's boy and like to defend him, but sometimes the posts you make do more bad than they do good just because of the way you word stuff leads into the wrong interpretation and causes more drama than good. I'm just trying to clear everything up with you so that we don't have these types of things happening again.

Brian


(11:22 AM 2/14/2005) AcuraFreak: **** you dude I didnt mean **** by my in anyway I meant YOU went through lots of drama with your problems !!! Your post caused ALL this DRAMA ************ a **** load of DRAMA !!! Bring it bitch !!!! **** OFF !!!!

(11:24 AM 2/14/2005) AcuraFreak: ****** *** wipe !!! Anyday anytime bitch !!! I sick of your BULLSHIT !!!! YOU dont even know me ************ !!! But you are fixing too real quick !!!!

(6:04 PM 2/14/2005) Bulldogg83: Man how old are you? Reason I ask is because the number doesn't represent your actions. I went about this in a civil way by contacting you through PM and talking to you like a man. And what bullshit Bucky?! The fact that I am telling the story like it is and sometimes the truth hurts? Get the **** over it. You're right, I don't know you, and you don't know me.
Fact of the matter is that this whole situation sucks and Stoney has been bothered about it. Those who know the story from start to finish look at your posts and can interpret them as being for something else. Just as you saying "all the drama," it could be referring to the drama of Houston calling myself and Tony the other day and the conversations that went down with that.

All I was saying was to watch your wording online so that something doesn't get blown out of portion just as this PM did. You can sit here behind your computer and threaten me all you want, and to be honest if I see you in public I won't say anything or do anything because there is nothing to be done. I haven't done anything to you for you want to "get to know me" nor have you dealt with any of my bullshit. Anything that has occurred with Velocity/VSV is between me and them and that's it. Again, I'm not trying to start **** with you or anyone else online because that's just ******* retarded. I am trying to prevent any more "drama" that could be done.


(10:32 PM 2/14/2005) AcuraFreak: Fact is YOU CAUSED ALL THE DRAMA...To begin with !!! And you have no right telling me what I should and should NOT do, say or post !!!! Yeah and your BULLSSHIT has caused a great guy like Stoney, who I know for a fact has helped you out WAY beyond most...Which is just his nature anyway reguardless of who they are. It ended when Stoney and Tony spoke the other day and worked it all out....My comments WHERE IN NOW WAY trying to stir up MORE DRAMA FOR ANYONE !!! I mean't NOTHING but GLAD it all worked out for you ! READ WHAT DOES THIS SAY: "Stone is the man ...as are others listed !" Meaning ALL the people that helped you solve your problems !!! Props to em all !!!
And you just stuck your foot so far down your throat it's not even funny by sending me this MORE DRAMA IM !!! So take your own advice and WATCH what you post....Your guilty of what you have preached to me !!!!

"Nice...<---Meaning NICE NUMBERS, NICE TUNE ! Lots of drama...<---Meaning You went through alot and it all worked out for you !!!!!--->But nice Glad it all worked out for ya !" Do you NOT understand YOU CAUSED ALL OF THIS !!! Can you honestly say to yourself "If I would have NOT posted ALL this B.S. would ANY of this happened" ? Come on dude...Please ! Once again man your eating shoe !!!!

Look dude...Fact is I am happy for you...But if you ever step off towards me in the manner you have done here...It will be ALL face to face the same as I have said here !!! NO threat...I am straight up dude !! I need no computer screen to hide behind I will tell you to your face the same **** I have written here ! I doubt by your actions you could do the same !!!! So in closing...Do your thing and good luck to you....But don't expect any love or respect from me towards you in ANY fashion anyday...I don't give a **** what you say....You caused ALL this drama !!!! So fess up like a man and tell it to my face and then and ONLY then you will gain my respect !!! I'm done !!!



(10:47 PM 2/14/2005) Bulldogg83: Man you need took have a drink or something to chill the **** out. The only reason I wasted my time Iming you was because I was getting asked by other people what was going on and if you were trying to stir **** up, and that's why I took it upon myself to address the situation. As far as you talking **** to me and telling me about this face to face situation, I am a no bullshit kind of guy, and you know what? I really don't care. Do I see you on a day to day basis or know where you hang out? No. It's not like I see you everyday and have the opportunity to tell you to your face, that's why I IM'd you.
In short, I didn't cause drama I told the stories as they were. If Stoney or anyone else didn't like it than oh well, but those were the facts. **** happens and people move on. I didn't step off crooked to you I, stepped up trying to avoid any possible situations and you're the one that went off into left field with the profanity and threats. I have nothing to prove to you and could give two ***** if you respect me or what I do with the car. Fact of the matter was I came to you when others were asking me if you were starting to stir up ****. That's it, end of story. Have fun with your teg and good luck with whatever you do with it.


(12:27 AM 2/15/2005) AcuraFreak: Yeah well...I rest my case...Your a **** starting drama queen and can't admit YOU WERE WRONG !!! Everyone already knows that !! So as you say, who gives a ****...I don't give a **** what you have to say, or do and I am sure nor does ANYONE else at Velocity...You pretty much did that to yourself...Rock on ! I hope to see you at the track soon.....Best to settle it like men ! Oh but wait...Define man ?

Bucky then proceeds to block my screenname from his IM list, and that was the last I heard of him until he posted in my thread "Another Build...The Sequel" where he continued to call me a drama queen, etc. That is when Tony and Scott stepped in and put in their .02 and Bucky's posts were then deleted.

End of story is that these are the facts and those of you out there have two options. You can either accept the facts or simply do not read/post on my threads if you do not want to deal with me because the only thing that is going to come out of it is more drama in one way or another. As far as Velocity Performance goes, I'd like to thank the owners Brad/Daren for taking care of the situation that was listed above, and hope that they understand that this has nothing to do with them. All problems listed above were with VSV Performance before they were bought out, all Brad/Daren did was take care of the situation that they were put into, and I thank them for that. Unfortuantly, it is best that I cut my ties with them due to the circumstances and think it's best for both parties.

Anyone whom would like to add their .02, I would appreciate it.


Modified by Bulldogg83 at 6:06 PM 2/17/2005


Modified by Bulldogg83 at 6:08 PM 2/17/2005


Modified by Bulldogg83 at 6:27 PM 2/17/2005

 

sounds like your car's been through alot of issues glad everything is getting better for you now

 

I think this thread clears up any stories that were going around and you didn't blame anyone for anything that happened to your car. You just stated the facts and now everyone can form their own opinion as to what they think caused all your problems.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cornbread Jr. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think this thread clears up any stories that were going around and you didn't blame anyone for anything that happened to your car. You just stated the facts and now everyone can form their own opinion as to what they think caused all your problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is the whole point of this thing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(11:22 AM 2/14/2005) AcuraFreak: **** you dude I didnt mean **** by my in anyway I meant YOU went through lots of drama with your problems !!! Your post caused ALL this DRAMA ************ a **** load of DRAMA !!! Bring it bitch !!!! **** OFF !!!!

(11:24 AM 2/14/2005) AcuraFreak: ****** *** wipe !!! Anyday anytime bitch !!! I sick of your BULLSHIT !!!! YOU dont even know me ************ !!! But you are fixing too real quick !!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think his responses right here show his maturity level. I am also sick of people startying drama with other people. I dont know bulldog nor acura freak but so far bulldog has shown with evidence what has happened. Acurafreak just seems to be a dramaqueen that likes to stir **** up. Stop cuasing drama in bulldogs thread, its childish and rather immature. The car scene (I know at a local level) is becoming more dramfied daily. I thought I graduated high school 2 years ago .

Bulldogg: Good luck with the project, brush them hata off

 

well lets see, you've spent 8000 dollars with a shop, you still have problems to this day, yeah that says enough.

brian you've been way more understanding than I would have been, it shouldnt take 4 motors, it should only take one.

but, look on the good side, its been a learning experience, hopefully no one will have the same bad 'luck' as you. and now that your motor is in the hands of gay tony, once u fix the rest of the mess from previous **** ups, it will soon be good to go, and then you slowly forget the pain and suffering, not to mention all the money blown down the drain.

good luck man

 

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I thought I graduated high school 2 years ago .

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The sad part is AcuraFreak graduated high school about 20 years ago .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civicman86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I think his responses right here show his maturity level. I am also sick of people startying drama with other people. I dont know bulldog nor acura freak but so far bulldog has shown with evidence what has happened. Acurafreak just seems to be a dramaqueen that likes to stir **** up. Stop cuasing drama in bulldogs thread, its childish and rather immature. The car scene (I know at a local level) is becoming more dramfied daily. I thought I graduated high school 2 years ago .

Bulldogg: Good luck with the project, brush them hata off

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Glad I'm not the only one that sees it like this.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well lets see, you've spent 8000 dollars with a shop, you still have problems to this day, yeah that says enough.

brian you've been way more understanding than I would have been, it shouldnt take 4 motors, it should only take one.

but, look on the good side, its been a learning experience, hopefully no one will have the same bad 'luck' as you. and now that your motor is in the hands of gay tony, once u fix the rest of the mess from previous **** ups, it will soon be good to go, and then you slowly forget the pain and suffering, not to mention all the money blown down the drain.

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I'm pretty sure that now I'm in Tony and Jason's hands everything will be fine. Plus with the good people around me like DiRep972, Flamenco-T, and Arturbo who are always willing to help, than I might just make it.

 

Those Fuel and Ignition maps explain it all. You have done nothing wrong but pick the wrong people for your services. All this will hopefully be behind you now that Tony and Jason are part of the equation. Good luck

 

wow, and u still have and drive the car? major props

with all that bs i woulda thrown in the towel, thats some bullllshiet

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sp00n’d Supra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, and u still have and drive the car? major props

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A lot of people have told me to throw in the towel, but as I've explained to others, I want to know what the car can do and not wonder what the car could have done.


Modified by Bulldogg83 at 7:52 PM 2/17/2005

 

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It will definately be behind him with Tony and Jason working on his car .

 

I've said it once..and I'll say it again, I am glad to hear everything is going well for you!! It is very unfortunate with what happened with you and VSV. But hopefully the headaches end here!

 

Lesson learned stay away from that shop! I am fixing this kids car he is on his third motor in 5 weeks another sorry shop SpeedZone in Kissimee,Fl

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bulldogg83 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want to know what the car can do and not wonder what the car could have done.
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your a soldier bryan ..........good luck and i can't wait to see what the beast is capable of at the track

 

Since my name is mentioned in this thread a few times I might as well put in my 1000.02.

This whole situation blows- In DFW. I've been sittin back watchin all this **** go down, watchin all these relationships between people I know go down the drain. I've done the best I can to stay out of it. Keep my mouth shut and mind my own business. All these people are my friends and I've never wanted to take sides, I still don't. VSV was the first shop I ever went too. I bought clear corners there for my integra back in 99; when they had just moved into the bigger shop. I met Stoney and he installed my DC sports exhaust for me. I used to hang out w/ Stoney's brother in law when I was like 9. I met Brian a lil over 2 years ago, when I was running around street racing everyone in Dallas, earning myself a nice little reputation. Brian had heard about me and wanted to race me. We raced & he beat me, but I was bound to see him again for a rematch. That same night Brian met Tony. Brian's motor was making some noise and Tony went for a ride in it to see if anything was wrong w/ it. That was on his old greddy turbo set up. I began my friendship w/ Tony a few months before that, around the time I raced Cornbread Jr.. Tony had just finished up a custom turbo set up for Scott(cornbread jr), and he had posted it on honda-tech. One day Art, Stan & I all went up to Jotech to have Tony look at a block stan was installing for this guy in lubbock. The crank didn't spin. This was my first experience w/ stoid(the people vsv contracted to build brian's motors). I started going to Tony w/ every question I had, much like all u guys on here too. Afterall he was nicknamed radioshack by art because, "you've got questions...hes got answers." I met Art when I first joined Honda-Tech, back in 01'. Art is the most giving person ever, seriously. He didn't even know me and he took me for a ride in his turbo integra, just because I wanted to know what turbo felt like before I bought my kit. Well I wasn't dissapointed and I bought my kit. This is where I met Stan. He had heard from a friend of his named Joel that a guy Joel knew bought a Revhard turbo kit and stan wanted to measure the piping. It's still 01'. Stan sent me an email and I told him i'd meet up w/ him when I got my kit so he could take measurements for his piping. Stan ended up buying a Drag3 kit and that's when Art, Stan & I's friendship was born. We were the only turbo honda's in DFW that we knew of and that was pretty cool.

Stay w/ me guys, there will be a point to all this rambling.

Around the same time I met Art and Stan I met a guy named Dustin(4u2nv) and he had a really good relationship w/ VSV. I started going back to VSV more often and I met a guy named Felix who worked there. Felix is espanol for those that don't know. Felix soon went turbo and so did Brandon(stoney's brother in law, my old friend from my childhood) and we all began running the street's, causing havoc everywhere in north Dino. We all used to go cruising the streets looking for races almost nightly. It was Me, Dustin, Felix, Justin(blap blap), Justin's brother Chris, Stoney, Stoney's brother Houston, Stoney's brother in law Brandon & sometimes Stan. Felix is how Art and Stan came in contact w/ VSV. A little later I met Bucky(acurafreak). Bucky was a real cool guy and a good customer of vsv's. We started talking and I began giving him advise on his turbo set up. Art started his business and so did Stan around this time. Bucky bought some stuff from Art and it wasn't much long after that Felix started buying parts from Art & Stan for VSV. That's when Art started talking to Stoney, and they built a business relationship. Now, back then, I was the only guy running around Dallas w/ hondata. St00pid was the only guy in Texas who had done anything w/ the hondata system. Jotech was only doing AEM tuning at the time. A short time after I met Tony they opened up there account w/ hondata. The hondata bug spread fast. Felix switched over to hondata and had Tony tune his turbo set up(while he worked at vsv). Even Stoney's brother Houston had his hondata tuned by Tony. Not too long after that, VSV became a hondata dealer themselves and Stoney began tuning. It didn't take him long to learn the system and start pushing out some major #'s. I see this as the point where all the conflicts of interest first began.

I know this is long but there will be a point!

Tony had already established himself as a major player in the tuning game in DFW. Stoney was coming up, gaining more and more recognition by the month. The first Tony vs. Stoney anything began. Some customers chose Tony for whatever reason and other customer's chose Stoney for whatever reason. Some of my friends went to Tony, some went to Stoney and a few made the trek to houston for St00pid too.

Now, let this be a lesson to all. Never let money get involved between friends, if you truly want to remain friends.

Issue's of loyalty, friendship & credibility began to come up. People began to take sides w/ one or the other. People were saying things. I began hearing he said, she said retic almost daily. It even got to the point where people were being threatened. There was always some new issue and I was caught in the middle of all of this because all these people are my friends.

What VSV/Velocity has done to help Brian get back on his feet is a real standup thing to do if you ask me. I don't want to get into the reasoning for why everything was done but the fact of the matter is they took care of him in the end. Brian took care of himself too and he decided to do what he felt was best for his situation. It's not personal, its money.

This isn't just a Brian problem though. It's bigger than the problems w/ Brian's motors. It is problem of mixing business w/ friends and letting business effect you personally and emotionally. Customer's want to take there cars to someone and have it worked on. They want a good quality service in exchange for their money. They don't want to take sides and battle w/ other customer's who are on the other side. Lately I've heard about new customer's being pulled into this situation and it is not professional and not helping either side out. Personally, I think it is in everyones best interest here to move on. Drop the subject, forget about it, hide it in a box. I don't care. Just move on. It'll be better for everyone. And I am not talking to one side or the other, I am talking to ALL of my friends. We are all guys and if I remember correctly guys get over **** alot easier then wemon so lets all get over this **** and begin making steps forward again instead of step's back.

Chunkin Dueces,

Direp

 

^^^ very well put chris , ive met you through brandon in 03 . all of this is blown out of porpotion and now peoples egos are getting in the middle of this . ive never met brian (bulldog) but i do know what velocity did to get him back on the road it was stand up for them to do it . it sucks what happened to his car . ive been through 2 motors one built . but hey i can only expect it if i beat the hell out them every chance i get . cars come and go it just sucks now that frienships are getting ruined behind all of this.

 

Its sad what honda-tech has come to we in DFW should be a team ..But like chris said throw this subject in the closet

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIRep972 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I think it is in everyones best interest here to move on. Drop the subject, forget about it, hide it in a box. I don't care. Just move on. It'll be better for everyone. And I am not talking to one side or the other, I am talking to ALL of my friends. We are all guys and if I remember correctly guys get over **** alot easier then wemon so lets all get over this **** and begin making steps forward again instead of step's back. </TD></TR></TABLE>

w3rd. this is a bad situation brian and vsv/velocity got caught up into. i have nothing but good things to say about them both and have known both for quite sometime now and niether have done me wrong.

Brian-I met Brain when i was out running the streets back in the day, i started to realize he was bulldogg83 on here started talking to him and the man went out of his way and got me a job back when we used to work at Home Depot and introduced me to all of his freinds, like chris (direp972) and even took me to Traxion with him. Even though we dont talk as much as we used to, you couldnt ask for a better freind than that he started to show me what the turbo game was all about and pointed me to vsv/veloicty....

Vsv/Velocity- Many of you have seen my threads and see what they are all about. You can't begin to imagine how welcome/wanted i felt when i walked through the doors for the first time, even though i had no intentions of buying or spending a dime there at first. of cource they are out to make $ but they also understand and share the love for the game/scence too and thats what i think is important

All in all, brain velocity

 

Jesus Brian. Im sure as **** glad your in some good hands now. You can stay at my place anytime....

 

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Vsv/Velocity- Many of you have seen my threads and see what they are all about. You can't begin to imagine how welcome/wanted i felt when i walked through the doors for the first time, even though i had no intentions of buying or spending a dime there at first. of cource they are out to make $ but they also understand and share the love for the game/scence too and thats what i think is important

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I can vouch for Stoney as well. Conor aka B18bek was the person who referred me to Stoney. My initial plan was to have Tony tune my car but he was very busy with the racing schedule. But besides that, Stoney is a great and stand up guy. He was also the initial guy to tune my setup and got my car boosted for the first time. I appreciate his great and friendly attitude. But certain things here have to be addressed. Everybody makes mistakes, and those mistakes have to be corrected. In this case, this is what Brian had to do, he went through so much with his car. Enough is just enough already for the guy. He had to find a solution, and it seems like he already has. I met Brian for the first time this summer when I came down there to be tuned. He is in no way a cry baby, or a drama queen. Just a guy who loves his car, and wants to go fast. With the crazy issues he had to face, he had to make a tough decision. So there is no need for putting him down, you would make the same decision.

Now, I don't want to hi-jack the thread, but I see no use in starting another thread about this. So here is an experience with Stoney that I have come across that I am still scratching my head on. Upon being retuned by Tony, he discovered a few issues:

1. My distributor timing was not synchronized with my Hondata.
2. My idle was not up to par (car stalled, shut off, lumpy)

Both issues fixed by Tony, what I don't understand is why did Stoney tell me that my lumpy idle/car shutting off/etc was normal due to the 750cc injectors when it clearly wasn't? At first, I talked to him about it on the phone after the tune, but he just assured me that it was normal. Later on, I PMed him about my problems, but recieved no response. So I just said **** it and had Tony retune me with all issues resolved. I had no doubts about Stoney's abilities, but the issues with Brian on top of the issues I had, left me with a lot of questions.

Khoi

 

This is more drama. In the forced indution tech forum. I didn't read any of it because I wasn't interested in your bickering.
in the forced induction tech forum

 

tech being the word

 

I'm not going to sit here and quote everyone that I need to make replies to, but I will answer some of the above. First off, VERY WELL PUT CHRIS!!!!!!!!! Like I said in my original post, what Velocity did as far as taking care of the situation at hand was something that they didn't have to do, but that they did to take care of a customer, and they were willing to go out of their way to fix the problem. Fixing the problem involved me agreeing that this motor was sound when it left the shop, and that they would not be held responsible for any mechanical problems with it. Knowing this I had to do what was in my best interest. As Chris said, it was NOTHING personal, just business, but it was taken as personal because the people I had been dealing with I had considered friends. But all in all, I had to do what was for once in my best interest, and taking it to Tony/Jason I know that there are not going to be any issues with the car. All business! Tony and Jason have been more than tuners to me, just as Stoney had been, and they are people that I can call actual friends, but I know with them that at the end of the day it's business. Just as Jason understood that when I got back to Dallas that I would be taking the car to Tony, he understood everything. Never questioned it, but actually promoted it because he knew that it was nothing personal, just business.

Khoi probably made the best accurate statement about me when he said "Just a guy who loves his car, and wants to go fast." I know that there are bigger/more important things out there than going fast in a car such as relationships, family, work, friends, etc. and right now I have those things. To be honest my relationship with my soon to be wife at the time started to go down hill 9 months ago because of issues that we were having and also the continuing drama with the car. She wanted me to sell everything and just give up, and I understood that, but as I honestly sat back I asked myself when am I ever going to be able to do what I've done with this car and be able to enjoy it without any other major responsibilities (such as kids, major career, etc.). I'm 21 and you only live once, and that's what I'm doing. I'm having fun with the car and getting the most out of it. Kicking it with my friends, and I worked everything out with my girl as we got back together, and she understands where I am coming from. This will all come to an end for us or at least get toned down to a point, and at that point is when I will be ready to settle down. She understands this, and is supportive of it. Some people build Honda's to say that they have done it, beat a few cars, and then just sell out. Others build them to reach a certain goal, whether it be a track time, horsepower goal, etc. No matter what our aspirations are with the car we should respect what one another is doing with it whether it's 200hp or 600hp. Friendships will be lost from this, others will be created, and some won't care, but what I will end this with is that no matter who you are or what you are doing with your car, do what you feel is best for you because at the end of the day, you are the one paying for it, driving it, dealing with the maintaince day in and day out. Some may call you "selfish", but at the end of the day you will be a "selfish guy" with a reliable car.....

 

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I think his responses right here show his maturity level. I am also sick of people startying drama with other people. I dont know bulldog nor acura freak but so far bulldog has shown with evidence what has happened. Acurafreak just seems to be a dramaqueen that likes to stir **** up. Stop cuasing drama in bulldogs thread, its childish and rather immature. The car scene (I know at a local level) is becoming more dramfied daily. I thought I graduated high school 2 years ago .

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jesus man, thank you. theres so many ****** on this site that think they know their **** and everyone else knows nothing, yea i havent been on here for long but theres waaaaaaay too many *** holes thumbs up bulldogg, but theres always gonna be haters bro