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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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How true is the rumor that NHRA officials are going to ban the use of external oil pumps in the SFWD class

this is bullshit if it is true. Looks like i may be only running NOPI

**** SUCKS!!!
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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Looks like I'll be running both NHRA and NDRA. I love racing so much I get to race more events. yay!
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like I'll be running both NHRA and NDRA. I love racing so much I get to race more events. yay!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hear you on that one - more events cause our car is setup to the strictest rules
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Man i setup my car with the rulebook in my other hand but i heard they are going to make a decision this weekend
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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what will happen if they do outlaw it...weight penalty or no running at all

i mean i know there are cars outthere that will be effected, i think Oaks Racing runs the peterson pump and with the power they make i know it will effect them
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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that's why we have 2 different setups
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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too much work to run different oil pumps
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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I spoke with the NHRA yesterday & they told me that one of the reasons they dont like the extrernal oil pumps is b/c they want everyone to be able to race & this class stay affordable so that it wont be expensive for us to race.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tommy Ten &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I spoke with the NHRA yesterday & they told me that one of the reasons they dont like the extrernal oil pumps is b/c they want everyone to be able to race & this class stay affordable so that it wont be expensive for us to race. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That makes no sence because the class is all ready pretty costly. Common a $1200 piece that will improve the reliability of your motor is worth it. I know i would rather spend the money on the oil pump rather than risk thousands on a stock oil pump failing. Just my opinion. I know there is no way in hell i will take my oil pump off to run nhra...
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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I also think its another way to limit the amount of power we make.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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It's a definite NO NO on the external pump,I was on the phone with them for an hour yesterday,and they said definitly not.
They did say that they will keep a record of any racers in SFWD that lost motors due to pump failure this season,that way they can make a ruling for next season.

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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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ok thats crazy, makes no sense at all sorry if i sound like i am bitching but i worked my *** off to have the money to spend on this car and when it is just about done i find out i wont be able to run...garbage...bullshit

**** it

NDRA

Sorry Guys just venting
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jerseykid609 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry to hear about the rule change.. im fine with it tho cus is doesnt effect me </TD></TR></TABLE>

Me either,now i have $1100 to spend elsewhere.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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damn lol
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aggressivemotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Me either,now i have $1100 to spend elsewhere. </TD></TR></TABLE>

on 1/4th of a new motor? j/k

rules suck. i feel for all the people who have their setup complete and get news like this.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Rule changes are part of racing... They are made to keep things safe and as fair as possible... I understand some people are not happy with some rule changes, but dont bitch about it, fix it and keep racing!...

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BTW... this was not directed at anyone in particular, and in no way did i intend to offend anyone...
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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i totally agree with you but they should just add a weight penelty. but thats just my opinion
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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This might be a stupid question, but will the no external pump rule affect me since I have a pump on my oil return line of my turbo?
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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no i dont think so i think they just mean removing the stock primary oil pump
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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Why do you run a pump for your turbo? But no I dont think this applys to that. I agree it sucks. I dont think it will make cars faster but will save us from breaking **** saving us money in the long run.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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I have not given up hope yet that NHRA will allow us to run with the dry sump - Jim Skelly informed me he would get the group together and try to get a ruling by the end of the week.
If your Dry Sump system is installed correctly it is safe from oil spills - and this is what the tech lanes are for - if someone installs a half *** set up they shouldn't be able to race. This is all about reliable safe horsepower. We checked our crank bearnings at the end of the season and they were like new. A well oiled engine will have less chance of spitting all over the track - these systems are good for cars that intend on running 9-10 second 1/4 miles.

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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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thank you i have been waiting for you to reply. please let me know what u hear
thanks
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowReaction &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do you run a pump for your turbo? But no I dont think this applys to that. I agree it sucks. I dont think it will make cars faster but will save us from breaking **** saving us money in the long run. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Turbo is mounted extremely low due to the nature of the manifold.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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I hope in my previous comment i didnt sound like a dick, i just kinda get alittle tired of hearing alot of bitching every time there is a rule change...

back to the subject... I think the reason behind the rule is because if a leak happens with that system it will create a much bigger mess on the track than a stock system since the stock system is internal...
If they are allowed, which i'm in favor of, i think there should be a minor weight penalty for using the system, and the system must be inspected by tech inspectors to ensure proper installation at each event...

Mike...

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