headgasket holes don't line up with my sleeved block need help! *pics included*

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Default headgasket holes don't line up with my sleeved block need help! *pics included*

the block is a b18b with darton sleeves and the gasket is made by Stone.

the holes dont line up at all and i want to know where i can buy one that will. im thinking of getting cosmetic or ge, but im not sure if they will line up. does anyone know where i can find one???

here is the block:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg

block with gasket on:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg

upclose shot:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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Use the stock head gasket. You should not have a problem.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Is it the bore that doesnt line up? everything else seems prett good

Always wonderring how the big bore guys bought gaskets
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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you mean the oem one from honda? do they make 84.5mm?
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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the bore lines up, but i was talking about the holes for the water/coolant passage.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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GE has the headgasket your looking for
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 01:25 AM
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Just make them bigger..
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lvietlboyl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you mean the oem one from honda? do they make 84.5mm?</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, Get the one from 97-98 CRV, it comes w/ 84mm. I know you have 84.5mm bore but this would work fine. GE don't sell any non vtec HG. Only the over bored Vtec ones.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Default Re: headgasket holes don't line up with my sleeved block need help! *pics included* (V-SPEC 1)

how can a 84mm hg work on my 84.5mm block?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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Using a stock gasket for .5mm oversized bore is a common practice. All you will notice is a tiny little lip of the headgasket sticking out. There's nothing to worry about. The headgasket will work just fine.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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I've never had a darton block, but I'd be more concerned about this than your HG.



Are those water holes supposed to be all misalligned and out of round like that?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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i 100% agree, that cant be sleeved right

if you do find a headgasket that matches up, it's not going to have misalligned holes.

i would contact whoever sleeved your block

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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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fix that first!!
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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this must be an old block, darton doesn't sell that style sleeve anymore after they got sued.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poorguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this must be an old block, darton doesn't sell that style sleeve anymore after they got sued.</TD></TR></TABLE>

really

what did they get sued for?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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if i dont fix that will it cause me a lot of problems?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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As some have pointed out, your sleeve install is definitely not the best. The holes between my cylinders lined up almost 100% perfectly. HOWEVER, your headgasket is OK. That's how the holes line up on some ports -- they don't. I originally had the same question for Darton and Cometic, but they both said that's how they will align (misaligned), and I have not had any cooling problems. Just make sure you coat the gasket and make sure your deck is 100% flat. Without my copper coating, I had slight oil leakage into coolant ports. Also double/tripple check your headstuds, and check torque specs after 24 hours. Cometic told me to torque to spec and recheck/retorque after 24 hours as the gasket 'settles' after being compressed. Just noting that my studs did actually tighen a little more after 24 hours.

Actually, if I remember correctly; compare the OEM gasket with an OEM head -- it's the same/similar. I'm pretty sure I compared an OEM gasket I had laying around and put it on a head and found the exact same scenario.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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i bought the block used and i dont know where it was sleeved at other than at some shop in fresno, ca. should i fix the alignment problem or go through with the install and making sure the gasket is torqued properly. what should i use to cut throught the hg in order for it to fit on my block? thanks
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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damn those holes are all sorts of messed up
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboEGhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">



</TD></TR></TABLE>Dayemm!!! That doesn't look too good!!! Whoever was behind the machine that drilled those holes must have been drunk or sumthing..LOL
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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The oddly look like AEBS sleeves...
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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we do Overbored OEM gaskets for the LS and Vtec Gaskets.

We dont stock the LS though but we can do the overbore on them.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Default Re: headgasket holes don't line up with my sleeved block need help! *pics included* (NVturbo)

I found who was responsible for sleeving that engine:



On a side note... were the sides of the sleeves (where the sleeves touch) already pre-cut or did the shop cut them?
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 01:58 AM
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does anyone have pictures of aeb sleeves so that we can compare them?
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 02:56 AM
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it looks bad.. but we all know there is worse out there .. and working..

I would say its not good to have it like that.. but i think with the copper spray and the re tourge... you should be only.... as long as the ports are somewhat lined up .. becuase i think the ports on the head are smaller... then the ones on the block....

you CAN run a vtec gasket on a non vtec block.... no problem at all.. Get a GE gasket... bored out to your bore...

once you get the right gasket.... double check everything... by putting the gasket on the block and the head.. to check out what lines up and what doesnt... you should have no problems...

Best of luck man...
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