Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata?
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Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata?
Im looking to go uberdata and my friend is using hondata so we were thinking of getting a chip burner that works for both. Is ther one that most people (tuners) use? also what chip do you most use? Ok one last thing Ive been messing with uberdata and the only thing i cant figure out is how to actually burn your setup. Any help?
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (deeweewoo)
ugh, http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata
secondly, a chip burner can burn any chip for any application, from an elctronic toaster to uberdata. it all depends on the data fed through the burner and that the chip is the proper for the app.
The most commonly used chip is the Atmel 29c256, but since atmel has quit making it, other people have had to look to different companies.
And you use the software provided with the burner to burn the uberdata - data to a chip
secondly, a chip burner can burn any chip for any application, from an elctronic toaster to uberdata. it all depends on the data fed through the burner and that the chip is the proper for the app.
The most commonly used chip is the Atmel 29c256, but since atmel has quit making it, other people have had to look to different companies.
And you use the software provided with the burner to burn the uberdata - data to a chip
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (wantboost)
Ok That helps a little I have already downloaded everything from that site and that is what I have been playing with. The Amtel AT29C256 Is what my friend has for hondata and if i get any burner i can reburn his chip and any chip i buy with the same burner. Correct?
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Yup. I have a moates BURN1 (www.moates.net) and it works great. Pretty much the cheapest one I found. He has sockets and chips as well. Great guy to deal with, very helpful
Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (wantboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> a chip burner can burn any chip for any application, from an elctronic toaster to uberdata.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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LOL toaster
B I N A R Y 1's and 0's
Its universal.
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (Muckman)
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LOL toaster
B I N A R Y 1's and 0's
Its universal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
1010001110 makes your bread burn so watchout
LOL toaster
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Its universal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
1010001110 makes your bread burn so watchout
Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (deeweewoo)
The chip burner comes with software to write the .bin to the ROM chip.
I use the Intronics Pocket Programmer II. It's the one that Hondata sells. It doesn't do DC power and it's serial port data transfer, so it's more cumbersome to use in the car...if that's how you want to use it.
For tuning while on the move (so I don't have to come home every 2 minutes to make the changes), I use the Intronics Pocket ROMulator....it's also standard Hondata gear.
I use the Intronics Pocket Programmer II. It's the one that Hondata sells. It doesn't do DC power and it's serial port data transfer, so it's more cumbersome to use in the car...if that's how you want to use it.
For tuning while on the move (so I don't have to come home every 2 minutes to make the changes), I use the Intronics Pocket ROMulator....it's also standard Hondata gear.
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (igo4bmx)
LOL I understand that side of it i just didnt know if hondata and uberdata used the same chip format.
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (deeweewoo)
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1010001110 makes your bread burn so watchout</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hahahaha
1010001110 makes your bread burn so watchout</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (deeweewoo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deeweewoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL I understand that side of it i just didnt know if hondata and uberdata used the same chip format.
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How would the ecu read it if they were different formats?
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How would the ecu read it if they were different formats?
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (Muckman)
i was looking to buy a chip burner on moates.net
Id prefer not to spend 85$, so would it be possible to make one? DIY
Id prefer not to spend 85$, so would it be possible to make one? DIY
Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (sim shadeee)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sim shadeee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was looking to buy a chip burner on moates.net
Id prefer not to spend 85$, so would it be possible to make one? DIY </TD></TR></TABLE>
the burn1 doesn't burn everything, but I think it is the nicest package out there. Many will disagree, but it is small, you can pul it anywhere, and not have to worry about it really, b/c it is concealed.. and it is fast. But yea, $85 is a lot to spend, but it is a good product, and comes with easy to use software.
Id prefer not to spend 85$, so would it be possible to make one? DIY
</TD></TR></TABLE>the burn1 doesn't burn everything, but I think it is the nicest package out there. Many will disagree, but it is small, you can pul it anywhere, and not have to worry about it really, b/c it is concealed.. and it is fast. But yea, $85 is a lot to spend, but it is a good product, and comes with easy to use software.
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (93turbo16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How would the ecu read it if they were different formats? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok for example the burn1 doesn't burn everything, It will only burn certian kinds of chips so why would i assume that all chips would work with all applications? But i understand now. Thanks Guys!
How would the ecu read it if they were different formats? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok for example the burn1 doesn't burn everything, It will only burn certian kinds of chips so why would i assume that all chips would work with all applications? But i understand now. Thanks Guys!
Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (deeweewoo)
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Ok for example the burn1 doesn't burn everything, It will only burn certian kinds of chips so why would i assume that all chips would work with all applications? But i understand now. Thanks Guys!
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That has nothing to do with what chips the burner is programmed to support. They all store the same information, but just use different ways of doing it. The most common chip is the AT29C256 chip, and the is reburnable with out the use of a UV eraser, which is very nice.
Anyway, good luck with your burner selection.. if you are only going to use 29c256s then you will be fine with just about everything.
Ok for example the burn1 doesn't burn everything, It will only burn certian kinds of chips so why would i assume that all chips would work with all applications? But i understand now. Thanks Guys!
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That has nothing to do with what chips the burner is programmed to support. They all store the same information, but just use different ways of doing it. The most common chip is the AT29C256 chip, and the is reburnable with out the use of a UV eraser, which is very nice.
Anyway, good luck with your burner selection.. if you are only going to use 29c256s then you will be fine with just about everything.
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (igo4bmx)
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i dont get it?
654?
28E?
i dont get it?
654?
28E?
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (2point2)
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i dont get it?
654?
28E?</TD></TR></TABLE>
WTF?
i dont get it?
654?
28E?</TD></TR></TABLE>
WTF?
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (deeweewoo)
when using uberdata, and tuning do u have to burn to the chip every time u make changes, or can u completly tune the car with the software from ur laptop, and when u get the tune done, then u just burn it to the chip?
Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (RudeLude)
With the ROMulator I use, I always have to shut the car off to write to the ROMulator memory or else it'll cause the ECU to go into limp mode.
If you don't have a ROMulator, then you need to reburn a new chip every time you want the changes to take effect.
If you don't have a ROMulator, then you need to reburn a new chip every time you want the changes to take effect.
Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (2point2)
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i dont get it?
654?
28E?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was thinking 1216 oct....?
1010011010 will send you to hell!
i dont get it?
654?
28E?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was thinking 1216 oct....?
1010011010 will send you to hell!
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (IN VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IN VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With the ROMulator I use, I always have to shut the car off to write to the ROMulator memory or else it'll cause the ECU to go into limp mode.
If you don't have a ROMulator, then you need to reburn a new chip every time you want the changes to take effect.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a faster laptop solves that problem. If it's fast enough you can do it with the car running. My laptop isn't fast enough so I just use the "download current table" and it's small enough data that you can just keep the car running while making changes. It's nice when you're street tuning.
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If you don't have a ROMulator, then you need to reburn a new chip every time you want the changes to take effect.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a faster laptop solves that problem. If it's fast enough you can do it with the car running. My laptop isn't fast enough so I just use the "download current table" and it's small enough data that you can just keep the car running while making changes. It's nice when you're street tuning.
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Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (stevel)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a faster laptop solves that problem. If it's fast enough you can do it with the car running. My laptop isn't fast enough so I just use the "download current table" and it's small enough data that you can just keep the car running while making changes. It's nice when you're street tuning.
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so with a fast laptop i can make the changes without burning the chip, and when i'm don e i can just burn the program to the chip and i'm finished?
thanks
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so with a fast laptop i can make the changes without burning the chip, and when i'm don e i can just burn the program to the chip and i'm finished?
thanks
daniel
Re: Is there a chip burner and chip that works for Uberdata and hondata? (RudeLude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RudeLude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so with a fast laptop i can make the changes without burning the chip, and when i'm don e i can just burn the program to the chip and i'm finished?
thanks
daniel</TD></TR></TABLE>
With a fast laptop, a realtime ROM emulator, and a programmable ECU.
so with a fast laptop i can make the changes without burning the chip, and when i'm don e i can just burn the program to the chip and i'm finished?
thanks
daniel</TD></TR></TABLE>
With a fast laptop, a realtime ROM emulator, and a programmable ECU.