Alright i may be coming up on like $2-3000.

Im contemplating either turboing my car or just getting a stock GSR swap.
This is my only car, i drive it everyday, and i dont really want to have any problems

Which would you choose? I want the car to be fun while maintaining the reliability factor.

 

While the turbo might be faster, you can't beat the reliability of a stock Honda engine. Plus if you come up on more money later, you'll be glad you have a b-series to dump money into.

 

i say turbo. you dont come up on 2-3000 everyday and turbo d's kill stock gsr's all day long. unless you know you can eventually turbo the gsr. then the answer is obvious.

 

yea but w/ a stock gsr theres always more room to upgrade, like say u come up on another 2-3000, then u have a bseries turbo, almost double the turboed d. and plus n/a motors get more respect if u dont want a turboed gsr, atleast from me. take the gsr youll be happier in the end

 

I should've made a poll, heh.

I know i can probably piece together a decent turbo kit for around $1000-$1500.

Where on the other hand, i can get a stock GSR swap for around $3000 installed.
Then i would need to replace the timing belt, oil pump, water pump, new clutch etc.
Is it worth swapping the car? what do u think.. especially involving my money situation...

 

well if u get a turbo you will have to always have it tuned and **** and with an na motor u wont unless u get like cams and gears. id get the swap, its worth it

 

If you really don't want to mess with reliability then just stick with the GSR engine.

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With FI always comes more tuning and reliability. There are tons of debates out there like this though. Just try searching the archives.

 

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ya and since this dude isnt a baller like some people, id say u wont have extra money for tuning to keep it reliable, then it goes boom and u put out more money for a new block. thats y im not getting a turbo.

 

well the dseries engines are a dime a dozen, if you tune the turbo setup well and the installation/parts or good it will be just as reliable as a stock motor, you may have to keep up on maintenance more, but otherwise you shouldnt deal with any other problems. TUNING IS KEY

 

i would opt for the turbo D. you could always build a D motor real cheap in the future to run more boost if you want.

 

The old debate over b18 vs. the turbo d....

Many have gone through the same thought process, I know I have...

There are good arguments both ways, I ended up going with turbo d myself, for a number of reasons...

Here are a few:

- I already had a d16z6 in my car
- I could peice together a decent turbo kit for it for less than $1500
- I would have extra money left over to spend on a good tune and extra parts if needed
- I would make more power than a b18c1
- Boost is more fun to drive
- I could always build my engine in the future if I wanted to turn up the boost a bit

I also knew that if I got a GSR I would end up dumping more and more money into it in the end because I would want to go turbo etc.... I didn't want to do that...

Don't underestimate the turbo d, it's reliable if tuned well, and is very quick...look at BBKA, 12.6 in a coupe with a stock d16z6-T...

 

NA is best...

 

thats not even a question trust me you'll want to go dohc vtec

 

The horse isn't going to wake up.