GSR: Rev hard Stage 2 vs. GReddy
Hey, I was wondering if i could get a couple of opinions about two turbo kits I had in mind along with the pros and cons of each. The two kits I am looking into for my GSR are the Greddy turbo kit and the Rev hard stage 2 kit. Each comes with front mount intercooler, and all the basic goodies, but im not sure on which would be a better deal. Both kits run around the same price (about $2800) brand new. With either of these two, I am going to go with greddy emanage for a fuel management, bc I cannot go chipped ecu or standalone for inspection reasons. Post up which you think is better. Thanks
search I had the same question and I searched found all I needed to know to make the right choice. It all depends on what you want and the purposes of your car
I'm curous why you're concerned fuel management that will pass inspections, since neither kit is smog legal. The greddy is until, you add the intercooler...
Its not that i dont know the info about the kits. I compared both myself, I just wanted to hear some input on what ppl think about the kits and which they think is better for a high miles car. This thread is about opinions, not on which kit has what.
Well first off the Greddy kit does not include an intercooler or a blow off valve, so you're going to have to add that to your price.
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He is concerned because emanage is compatible with obdII. If he went hondata he would have to convert to OBDI, and with the change in NY Inspections, it'll be even harder to pass because all 96+ cars are being hooked up to a computer for emmisions now.
2nd off. It all depends on your goals with the car because each kit comes with a different size turbo. The 18g that comes with the greddy kit is smaller than the t3/t4 in the Rev kit. So what that means is the 18g will be spooled up quicker and give you some nice low and mid end power, but since the gsr has a fairly high redline, it most likely won't make power all the way to redline.
Where as the t3/t4 will take a bit longer to spool but you will make power all the way till redline and it also will be able to support bigger hp numbers.
Another difference is the wastegates. Greddy is internal while rev hard's is external.
Basically only you can anwser which kit to get based on what you plan on doing with your car or how/where you want the power delievered.
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He is concerned because emanage is compatible with obdII. If he went hondata he would have to convert to OBDI, and with the change in NY Inspections, it'll be even harder to pass because all 96+ cars are being hooked up to a computer for emmisions now.
2nd off. It all depends on your goals with the car because each kit comes with a different size turbo. The 18g that comes with the greddy kit is smaller than the t3/t4 in the Rev kit. So what that means is the 18g will be spooled up quicker and give you some nice low and mid end power, but since the gsr has a fairly high redline, it most likely won't make power all the way to redline.
Where as the t3/t4 will take a bit longer to spool but you will make power all the way till redline and it also will be able to support bigger hp numbers.
Another difference is the wastegates. Greddy is internal while rev hard's is external.
Basically only you can anwser which kit to get based on what you plan on doing with your car or how/where you want the power delievered.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLacK FirE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well first off the Greddy kit does not include an intercooler or a blow off valve, so you're going to have to add that to your price.
He is concerned because emanage is compatible with obdII. If he went hondata he would have to convert to OBDI, and with the change in NY Inspections, it'll be even harder to pass because all 96+ cars are being hooked up to a computer for emmisions now.
2nd off. It all depends on your goals with the car because each kit comes with a different size turbo. The 18g that comes with the greddy kit is smaller than the t3/t4 in the Rev kit. So what that means is the 18g will be spooled up quicker and give you some nice low and mid end power, but since the gsr has a fairly high redline, it most likely won't make power all the way to redline.
Where as the t3/t4 will take a bit longer to spool but you will make power all the way till redline and it also will be able to support bigger hp numbers.
Another difference is the wastegates. Greddy is internal while rev hard's is external.
Basically only you can anwser which kit to get based on what you plan on doing with your car or how/where you want the power delievered.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the info man, you make some good points. Overall, I want some nice power, nottin to crazy bc my car is going to be a daily driver. I like the fact that the rev hard comes with external wastegate and a BOV and other things that I wouldnt need to buy. I like the greddy bc its basically got everything "legal". Right now, I am leaning towards the rev hard w/ an emanage. I will need to push low boost, around 7-8psi, bc i have stock highway internals right now.
Anyone else have any imput or opinions on what they would choose whether it be based on opinion or experience?
He is concerned because emanage is compatible with obdII. If he went hondata he would have to convert to OBDI, and with the change in NY Inspections, it'll be even harder to pass because all 96+ cars are being hooked up to a computer for emmisions now.
2nd off. It all depends on your goals with the car because each kit comes with a different size turbo. The 18g that comes with the greddy kit is smaller than the t3/t4 in the Rev kit. So what that means is the 18g will be spooled up quicker and give you some nice low and mid end power, but since the gsr has a fairly high redline, it most likely won't make power all the way to redline.
Where as the t3/t4 will take a bit longer to spool but you will make power all the way till redline and it also will be able to support bigger hp numbers.
Another difference is the wastegates. Greddy is internal while rev hard's is external.
Basically only you can anwser which kit to get based on what you plan on doing with your car or how/where you want the power delievered.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the info man, you make some good points. Overall, I want some nice power, nottin to crazy bc my car is going to be a daily driver. I like the fact that the rev hard comes with external wastegate and a BOV and other things that I wouldnt need to buy. I like the greddy bc its basically got everything "legal". Right now, I am leaning towards the rev hard w/ an emanage. I will need to push low boost, around 7-8psi, bc i have stock highway internals right now.
Anyone else have any imput or opinions on what they would choose whether it be based on opinion or experience?
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well, i dont want crazy power, im only looking for about 230-250whp, only running off 7-8psi. how much does the precision kit run for, and would it be a complete bolt on system?
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1st, try the forced indutcion forum and searching...
also, if im not wrong i think the greddys carb will not be applicable once you throw on an intercooler....i could be wrong though....search that too
but like everyone else is saying...you can get 230 whp with the greddy kit....itll be very nice on the street....but if you do go with a revhard with a bigger turbo its slighly more lag but rapes up top...you easily hit 230 whp wit revhard and can still easily be daily driven..
1st, try the forced indutcion forum and searching...
also, if im not wrong i think the greddys carb will not be applicable once you throw on an intercooler....i could be wrong though....search that too
but like everyone else is saying...you can get 230 whp with the greddy kit....itll be very nice on the street....but if you do go with a revhard with a bigger turbo its slighly more lag but rapes up top...you easily hit 230 whp wit revhard and can still easily be daily driven..
I have known people that have had good and bad experiences with both. I would, however, suggest the Greddy kit because it is more common and easier to pass off as legal. I didn't know about that intercooler thing, just go without it.
I like the greddy too, but the only thing i dont like is that it dont have a BOV and external waste gate. plus, the greddy kit is only made for the 96-99 GSRs, so the downpipe wont exactly work. With the rev hard 2 kit, the kit will be specified for my 2000 Gsr, and it will have a BOV and external mounted wastegate. The only thing i would need to upgrade would be fuel management, in which i would buy a greddy emanage unit. plus i wouldnt mind a little turbo lag in compensation for mid to higher end power on low boost (7-8psi). if the rev hard gives me more power at low boost, it seems like the one i would go for
Any other suggestions are welcome, keep them coming, i can use anyone's imput
-thanks
Any other suggestions are welcome, keep them coming, i can use anyone's imput-thanks
definately, Im estimating about $3500-4000 for the turbo kit, clutch/lightened flywheel, catback, and tuning/gauges. you think thas enough?
go to drag turbokits.com
i bought my kit from them and i got it quick and it came with some guages and map bypass and plugs and shipping for 2895 and back when i bought mine last year they gave me a block guard and a turbo timer too and i upgraded to the tail gate also for like 2950 or so
i bought my kit from them and i got it quick and it came with some guages and map bypass and plugs and shipping for 2895 and back when i bought mine last year they gave me a block guard and a turbo timer too and i upgraded to the tail gate also for like 2950 or so
man i am late on posting something lol. if i were u and wanted to do a turbo setup id say peice ur own together and make possibly more power than a revhard or a greddy. greddy kits suck IMO unless u want just a little bit of boost and for the look. revhard kit will make more power. or if u want i can peice u together a kit and make more power(and more reliably)than both these systems and comes wit engine management
. check the sig
also wit keeping to pass smog just find someone crooked to give u a sticker theres dozens of inspection stations like that. ur not gonna pass smog with neither and i wouldnt use emanage rather go wit neptune or hondata or if ur a baller some EMS
. check the sigalso wit keeping to pass smog just find someone crooked to give u a sticker theres dozens of inspection stations like that. ur not gonna pass smog with neither and i wouldnt use emanage rather go wit neptune or hondata or if ur a baller some EMS
Well, the thing is, i dont want crazy whp bc im going to be running the turbo on stock internals that have 124k highway miles on it, at least for now until i get money to rebuild. Thats why I was thinking of a toned down kit that would be good for daily driving. As to the inspection, I live in NY, and they use the OBD2 scan, and that is a direct plug in to the ecu on my car, so theres no way they can pass me even if i payed them off. So in that case i wouldnt be able to swap my ecu or get it chipped without failing. Right now im leaning towards the rev hard..seems good for what you get, i would just need fuel management, and some gauges..
Anyone else have any opinions on which they would choose? and does anyone know where i could get a rev hard for a slammin price, meaning less than $2700 (complete kit w/ intercooler) thanks
Anyone else have any opinions on which they would choose? and does anyone know where i could get a rev hard for a slammin price, meaning less than $2700 (complete kit w/ intercooler) thanks
the revhard hit is a lot more extreme than the Greddy kit. it adds a lot more power, plus you get the benefits of an intercooler.
the greddy kit appears to most people because it comes with the CARB sticker. however, the addition of a BOV will void that (which everyone adds). also, with 124k miles, maybe the low boost, small turbo greddy set will be more suitable. also, little to no tuning is required with the blue box. although, many ppl will agrue otherwise. so will leave that as my opinion. and no i don't have personal experience with the kit. i have just read a lot of them.
the greddy kit appears to most people because it comes with the CARB sticker. however, the addition of a BOV will void that (which everyone adds). also, with 124k miles, maybe the low boost, small turbo greddy set will be more suitable. also, little to no tuning is required with the blue box. although, many ppl will agrue otherwise. so will leave that as my opinion. and no i don't have personal experience with the kit. i have just read a lot of them.


