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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Ok guys my brother just bought him a 98 ITR and its 100% Stock.... He wants to know how it will perform through an auto-x event as far as the stock suspension.... Pro's and Con's.... Goods and Bads...advantages and disadvantages..ect... thanks guys.... This is asking for members opinions, Not for flaming.....TIA
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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It will freakin ROCK.

ITR has many DS National championships, and is arguably still the car to beat in D-Stock.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jetydosa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will freakin ROCK.</TD></TR></TABLE>



My recommendation: Just try it, just the way it is!
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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He hopes so.... He is so excited he got one.. He's just really anxious/nervous about his first event.... I have Spoon suspension which came with my ITR so I dunno what to tell him other than it'll do fine....
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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If I were good I would rock.

Edgar "Im_In_There" won our class this past season on a stock suspension.




Modified by opie at 9:15 PM 2/13/2005
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Lil body roll never hurt nobody



Learn to drive stock first. It works well.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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From what I have heard, the stock suspension is perfect. The car is already very balanced, and shouldn't really need any different suspension.

Of course I have different shocks and springs, but the car should handle just like it should, perfect
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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How long can the stock suspension hold up for on a regularly street/occasional auto-x driven ITR?
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 808dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How long can the stock suspension hold up for on a regularly street/occasional auto-x driven ITR? </TD></TR></TABLE>

foreVAR!
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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YEah dude, a long time. Many people have countless miles on Track and AutoX on their R and still going strong.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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foreVAR!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh man I love this car
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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I love mine more and more every time it's outta storage and on the road.....
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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A '98, eh?
How many miles on it?

I'd guess it's not really in stock/showroom condition on the suspension at this point in time, is it. Hmmmm!
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hamB18C5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I have heard, the stock suspension is perfect. The car is already very balanced, and shouldn't really need any different suspension. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Let's not get carried away. There is no doubt that the out of the box suspension on the ITR is freakin' fantastic but it is not perfect and can certainly be improved upon. All those DS national championships were not won on stock dampers I would bet....
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let's not get carried away. There is no doubt that the out of the box suspension on the ITR is freakin' fantastic but it is not perfect and can certainly be improved upon. All those DS national championships were not won on stock dampers I would bet.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha... somehow, i think you're right.

just a bit of body roll here, 100% stock. some negative camber would be nice
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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IMO, it'd be better to learn to feel the car at the autox with stock suspension so you can get to know the car.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A '98, eh?
How many miles on it?

I'd guess it's not really in stock/showroom condition on the suspension at this point in time, is it. Hmmmm!</TD></TR></TABLE>

It has 41,000 on the clock and was purchased from the original owner who was in his late 40's.... Not to mention it was garaged it's entire span with the previous owner....
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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I've autoxed my ITR for the last 3 years on 100% stock suspension. The car is very competitive locally (only slowed down by the driver).

If he's fairly new to autox, I wouldn't change a thing.

FWIW, most of the (DS) nationally competitive ITRs I know of, including the current national champion, are on revalved Konis.

HTH
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:45 AM
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Theres no doubt that the car is competent when new and stock but Ed's point is along my line of thought.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A '98, eh?
How many miles on it?

I'd guess it's not really in stock/showroom condition on the suspension at this point in time, is it. Hmmmm!</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01ITR#173DC2ning &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It has 41,000 on the clock and was purchased from the original owner who was in his late 40's.... Not to mention it was garaged it's entire span with the previous owner....</TD></TR></TABLE>

In that case then it's broken-in and possibly a bit loose but nothing to worry about and no reason to do any drastic changes/upgrades till he drives at least a handful of autocrosses to figure out the cars normal characteristics or flaws.

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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Thanks guys..
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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Get some revalved Koni yellows Thats what I have on stock springs/bars and its awesome!
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Pro: The stock suspension works fine and will hold its own against rivals in the class.

Con: The ITR is a fwd car, the stock setup will suffer from understeer through certain corners.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get some revalved Koni yellows Thats what I have on stock springs/bars and its awesome!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Been running revalved yellows and stock susp. for 2+ years, its been a great learning platform. This year its time for some GC's.

If you do upgrade anything, get some adjustable shocks.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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.RJ (and 92TypeR): how do the the re-valved Konis feel on the street? Do you think the revalving would be too firm for a daily driver (that does about 15 autox's a year)?
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bender &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Do you think the revalving would be too firm for a daily driver (that does about 15 autox's a year)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on what your tolerance is Yes they are much, much firmer than stock, but certainly tolerable, IMO
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