I just bought the Omni full coilover setup for my 89 CR-X Si and for some reason I can't get the fronts to show any kind of drop... The backs will go low... I've got it set at a pretty clean drop in the rear right now but the fronts... seems to me like the fronts should go lower than the rear. I've got the springs preloaded and the base screwed all the way up and still looks stock.

Anyone else have this problem with their omni's? The website says that it'll go 4" but seems like the fronts only do 1.5" for me... I followed all the instructions and still nothing! help!

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Front Stock


Front "dropped"


Rear stock


rear dropped

Yes I know I have a messy *** garage


Modified by Shiro Z31-T at 2:53 PM 2/12/2005

 

please help

as I am about to sell my tein SS

for a set of these and rear LCA's

 

BUMP need to get this solved!

 

pr3eloading thesprings is probably holding the strut at full extension.

 

So the only way to really drop it on Omni's are to disregard the preload? Would the ride quality suffer due to that?

I've got the sports 12k-F 10k-R I think and its more bouncy than rough... I'd take rough anyday but this bouncing is mkaing me sick haha.

I'll give it a shot and let you guys know what happened... This will be the 4th time this week I've taken off the suspension to figure this out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shiro Z31-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the only way to really drop it on Omni's are to disregard the preload? Would the ride quality suffer due to that?

I've got the sports 12k-F 10k-R I think and its more bouncy than rough... I'd take rough anyday but this bouncing is mkaing me sick haha.

I'll give it a shot and let you guys know what happened... This will be the 4th time this week I've taken off the suspension to figure this out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn essay, Its bouncy because you have the prel-izzle-load all whack G. Post this shizzle in the nizzlew suspension forum, ive sizeen some priszoblems like this and i think i remember it phina be due to the preload.

 

have you moved the car?

 

let the coilovers break in...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchBox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let the coilovers break in...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Eh, no, they don't break in, read my write up

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=973380

I cover this problem in that post, Omni has fixed the rear sway clearance problem for EFs, but have not touched the problem with the lowering on the front. Unfortunately you do have to go against the Omni instructions and lower the spring perches (decreasing shock travel). To solve this, the shocks would have to be made physically smaller. I really don't know why this hasn't been addressed yet.

 

So basically don't listen to the instructions for the fronts... I've installed numerous coilover setups but never seen this problem before... Only reason I didn't want to go against the instructions was because the preload on the "short travel" shocks

 

Why didnt I think of that. I bet they are the same hight as EG struts, which are 1" taller than ED struts, that would explain why your front is ~1" taller.

I have EG struts for the front of my hatch right now actually.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.Saturn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Eh, no, they don't break in, read my write up

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=973380

I cover this problem in that post, Omni has fixed the rear sway clearance problem for EFs, but have not touched the problem with the lowering on the front. Unfortunately you do have to go against the Omni instructions and lower the spring perches (decreasing shock travel). To solve this, the shocks would have to be made physically smaller. I really don't know why this hasn't been addressed yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

interesting i thought they would have to settle

 

Has anyone contacted Omni about this problem?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shiro Z31-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So basically don't listen to the instructions for the fronts... I've installed numerous coilover setups but never seen this problem before... Only reason I didn't want to go against the instructions was because the preload on the "short travel" shocks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Follow the instuctions to set preload, then raise the lower cup as high as it will go... and lastly set the perches to height. Since the cup is raised to the top, it won't take too much lowering of the perches to be where you want.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JapJunkie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone contacted Omni about this problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup, I talked to them and they said just lower it by using the perches, and just don't go crazy with it and you won't lose too much shock travel. I talked to them over 6 months ago, I don't know if they are redesigning an ED/EF front shock or not.

The front shocks in the Omni EF kit are the same as the EG kit unfortunately. And yes, this is why they are ~1 inch longer than they should be for this application.

As far as the springs settling, roll the car back and forth a few feet after installing, this is all the settling they should do. After 6 months I've measured around 1/8" of ride height change, not much at all.

 

also reset the bushings, I believe the FSM says to torque the bushings with the car at ride hight so they are not stressed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.Saturn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As far as the springs settling, roll the car back and forth a few feet after installing, this is all the settling they should do. After 6 months I've measured around 1/8" of ride height change, not much at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

learn something new everyday

 

I have the sports. I thought mine were bouncy at first but that was cause my tires had low air pressure in them. But now they feel good, not bouncy at all Your front dropped lower than mine though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krustindumm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also reset the bushings, I believe the FSM says to torque the bushings with the car at ride hight so they are not stressed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, if you have stock/Mugen bushings they MUST be torqued are ride height or they will not perform as intended. With urethane, torque wherever you want, they rotate rather than twist.

 

I think this would be a good place to impliment a raised top hat. Assuming the piston bottoms before the body hits, you could keep your travel & preload settings with the taller struts.

 

BUY H&R Ultra Lows !!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krustindumm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think this would be a good place to impliment a raised top hat. Assuming the piston bottoms before the body hits, you could keep your travel & preload settings with the taller struts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I suggested this in my write up, nothing has come of it yet unfortunately.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rob. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUY H&R Ultra Lows !!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

ditto. i don't think omnipowers are designed to dump the heck out of a car

extreme dump = extreme ride

 

So u fix ur dilemma?

 

I think the only way to fix lowering the front more. Is either getting shorter forks in the front or lowering the spring perch, losing shock travel.

 

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