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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Default FIA 2010 harnesses... are they available yet?

Does anyone know if I order OMP belts now if they will be tagged as 2004-2009 or 2005-2010? If they're still 2009, when will the 2010's be out? Thanks.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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they will still only be good for 2 years from date of manufacter to dec 31 of that year
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they will still only be good for 2 years from date of manufacter to dec 31 of that year</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just got an OMP set a couple of weeks ago from Pegasus and they expire in 2009.

Chad, I think you might have missed that. NASA CCR says FIA belts age out on Dec 31 of the tagged expiration year. So, If I understand this correctly, I'll buy a new set in Jan 2010. I'll get 5 race seasons out of this set! (And the car is garaged with minimal UV exposure).
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Track rat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I just got an OMP set a couple of weeks ago from Pegasus and they expire in 2009.

Chad, I think you might have missed that. NASA CCR says FIA belts age out on Dec 31 of the tagged expiration year. So, If I understand this correctly, I'll buy a new set in Jan 2010. I'll get 5 race seasons out of this set! (And the car is garaged with minimal UV exposure).</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm.....

interesting...
maybe it is window nets i'm thinking of...
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Default Re: FIA 2010 harnesses... are they available yet? (chad)

I have Sabelt 6 point belts in stock ... FIA 2010 . Can get OMP, Sparco, etc.

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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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uhhh. not to get into the money vs sense thing.....but doesn't CCR say 2 years(maybe thats just SFI belts). also, even with FIA belts you have to consider the amount they are used and/or exposed to the elements, including heat and UV...
for me though, i'd end up keeping the belts for as long as they are good, jsut as with helmets, even if the braid docs say 2 years is max on a helmet due to UV decomposition issues. then again, my last name isn't schumacher, gordon, kinser, or force so i probably don't have to worry about "the rare cases of failure"
my $0.02.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 03:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asoduk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhhh. not to get into the money vs sense thing.....but doesn't CCR say 2 years(maybe thats just SFI belts).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why dont you read the CCR? Its free to download...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd end up keeping the belts for as long as they are good, jsut as with helmets, even if the braid docs say 2 years is max on a helmet due to UV decomposition issues.</TD></TR></TABLE>

For DE use sure - but anything past the 'expired' date you need to keep a very close eye on it. Inspect them every frequently.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i probably don't have to worry about "the rare cases of failure"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes you do!!!!
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 03:20 AM
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Default Re: FIA 2010 harnesses... are they available yet? (.RJ)

I will have to talk to richard to clear it up but it was my assumption that nasa DE will abide by the same rules as race car on this subject. just like when they run a roll bar... the helmet... etc.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 03:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MMsportsRexSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will have to talk to richard to clear it up but it was my assumption that nasa DE will abide by the same rules as race car on this subject. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ultimately yes. But the instructors tech the car... and i have not seen an instructor turn away a student on an expired harness - the pass side harness I used all last year was out of date.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 04:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ultimately yes. But the instructors tech the car... and i have not seen an instructor turn away a student on an expired harness - the pass side harness I used all last year was out of date.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Also would you feel more comfortable in a 3 year old expired harness or a 15 year old OEM belt? Are oem belts made with a different spec which make them stay good longer or are they just not expected to do as much so they don't even think about that?
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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i've wondered that about OEM belts too. are they soaked in something? stitched in some special way? or is it the belt material itself?
and for harnesses...when do they stamp the date on the belt? when they are made, or when they are sold?
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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It's my understanding that (in SCCA at least) they look at the manufacture date and the belts expire 2 years past the manufacture year. So the most one would get, is 3 seasons if the date happened to be in the beginning of the year.

Anybody selling Scroth harness for cheap?

Inaugural Honda Cup winner wants to know....
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slickrick &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's my understanding that (in SCCA at least) they look at the manufacture date and the belts expire 2 years past the manufacture year.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by asoduk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when do they stamp the date on the belt? when they are made, or when they are sold?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You guys really need to read the SCCA GCR/NASA CCR.... SFI and FIA belts are not rated the same.
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