OT: NEW CIVIC SI CONCEPT
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Suspension will still suck
But it looks aren't terrible. I wouldn't kick it out of bed. I know CRX LEE absolutely loves McPhearson strut type suspension I think he even said it is his favorite...
Modified by CRX Toad at 12:15 PM 2/10/2005
But it looks aren't terrible. I wouldn't kick it out of bed. I know CRX LEE absolutely loves McPhearson strut type suspension I think he even said it is his favorite...
Modified by CRX Toad at 12:15 PM 2/10/2005
That looks pretty sweet but it does like substantially heavier. If I had one wish from Honda, it would be to bring back the CRX. I'd like a 2000 lb kerb weight with a light and respectable engine and great suspension geometry.
That I would buy in a heartbeat.
Ken M
That I would buy in a heartbeat.
Ken M
Looks alot like a Scion TC
I really dont like the black hood, dark headlights, or chevy cobalt ricer wing. But if they fixed boy racer crap I think it would be a good looking car.
I really dont like the black hood, dark headlights, or chevy cobalt ricer wing. But if they fixed boy racer crap I think it would be a good looking car.
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If someone in the aftermarket gets MacPherson struts right for FWD cars, I'd really consider buying this.
As long as the engine has ***** I'm sure it would be autocross worthy... A warmed over K24 would be nice.
LOOKS BETTER THAN SPY SHOTS
</TD></TR></TABLE>If someone in the aftermarket gets MacPherson struts right for FWD cars, I'd really consider buying this.
As long as the engine has ***** I'm sure it would be autocross worthy... A warmed over K24 would be nice.
Well, at least it looks good . . . Honda got that part right, where they screwed up last time. It'll sell better than the EP3 based on that alone.
Too bad it will still be an overpriced heavy pig riding on the Global Compact Platform's poor implemetation of Mac struts . . .
More photos at http://www.vtec.net.
Edit: Holy ****, a LIMITED SLIP!!! It's about f'ing time!!!
Too bad it will still be an overpriced heavy pig riding on the Global Compact Platform's poor implemetation of Mac struts . . .
More photos at http://www.vtec.net.
Edit: Holy ****, a LIMITED SLIP!!! It's about f'ing time!!!
wtf?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by article »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So will the new Si get respect from the kids with spiky hair and baggy pants? Who knows? A vast majority of those kids don’t have any money and currently wait four or five model years until a cool car hits $8,000 or so and then buy it, blindly slapping in a case-blowing turbo. For these enthusiasts, the second-generation RX-7 or any 240SX is what they’re looking for now, with a honkin’ wing slapped on the back acting as an air brake. That was the way the original Civic and Integra became cool cars, when they entered the used-car market and still had solid blocks and tune-able heads.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by article »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So will the new Si get respect from the kids with spiky hair and baggy pants? Who knows? A vast majority of those kids don’t have any money and currently wait four or five model years until a cool car hits $8,000 or so and then buy it, blindly slapping in a case-blowing turbo. For these enthusiasts, the second-generation RX-7 or any 240SX is what they’re looking for now, with a honkin’ wing slapped on the back acting as an air brake. That was the way the original Civic and Integra became cool cars, when they entered the used-car market and still had solid blocks and tune-able heads.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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yeah wtf is that. blahhhh
yeah wtf is that. blahhhh
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LSD
looks cool
It should still be sub-2800lbs
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i'll bet it's right around 2800. people want HP and a "sturdy feeling"--they don't care about weight anymore.
i don't like it. looks like a scion tC met a dodge intrepid, had sex in the bar bathroom, and 9 months later this thing came out somehow looking like both but with the trademark ugly accord front end.
LSD
looks cool
It should still be sub-2800lbs
</TD></TR></TABLE>i'll bet it's right around 2800. people want HP and a "sturdy feeling"--they don't care about weight anymore.
i don't like it. looks like a scion tC met a dodge intrepid, had sex in the bar bathroom, and 9 months later this thing came out somehow looking like both but with the trademark ugly accord front end.
Addendum... An LSD!!!
1. Weight issue and basic suspension design concerns... Remember, the Cooper S is still a heavy car with struts, nobody complains when driving one of those!
2. My thing is: basically the 4th and 5th generation cars are getting older, and the stresses of racing them will take their toll on the chassis... They were not initially constructed to be race cars (Solo or road racing), and the pristine, "old lady" owned cars have all but been swapped up or stolen.
3. In other words, the supply of rust-free, intact, winter-free cars is diminishing, and many of us don't have the time, desire, or budget to *restore first* then build... I consider my 93 Coupe to be in excellent condition for a northeast car, but the chance to finally run in a Stock class is enticing. Shocks and tires. Many of us on this board like the Cooper S for example, but aspects of it turn us off for one reason or another. For me, it is the use of a Brazilian Chrysler engine.
4. Newer cars are designed entirely in cyberspace and are so much sturdier and rigid from a bending perspective that a good set of struts (and GC's) will allow a good balance to be reached.
I wouldn't write it off just yet, especially until we see more specs:
> Weight
> Gear ratios
> Wheelbase
> Pricing
> Content (no sunroof would be a major plus, but highly unlikely)
1. Weight issue and basic suspension design concerns... Remember, the Cooper S is still a heavy car with struts, nobody complains when driving one of those!
2. My thing is: basically the 4th and 5th generation cars are getting older, and the stresses of racing them will take their toll on the chassis... They were not initially constructed to be race cars (Solo or road racing), and the pristine, "old lady" owned cars have all but been swapped up or stolen.
3. In other words, the supply of rust-free, intact, winter-free cars is diminishing, and many of us don't have the time, desire, or budget to *restore first* then build... I consider my 93 Coupe to be in excellent condition for a northeast car, but the chance to finally run in a Stock class is enticing. Shocks and tires. Many of us on this board like the Cooper S for example, but aspects of it turn us off for one reason or another. For me, it is the use of a Brazilian Chrysler engine.
4. Newer cars are designed entirely in cyberspace and are so much sturdier and rigid from a bending perspective that a good set of struts (and GC's) will allow a good balance to be reached.
I wouldn't write it off just yet, especially until we see more specs:
> Weight
> Gear ratios
> Wheelbase
> Pricing
> Content (no sunroof would be a major plus, but highly unlikely)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by leonard »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> That looks pretty sweet but it does like substantially heavier. If I had one wish from Honda, it would be to bring back the CRX. I'd like a 2000 lb kerb weight with a light and respectable engine and great suspension geometry.
That I would buy in a heartbeat.
Ken M</TD></TR></TABLE>
The picture in your avatar sums up modern cars but goes against what you were saying... Even the nimble, agile, razor sharp S2000 weighs 2800 lbs. That's almost a half ton(!) more than the Lotus Elise.
That I would buy in a heartbeat.
Ken M</TD></TR></TABLE>
The picture in your avatar sums up modern cars but goes against what you were saying... Even the nimble, agile, razor sharp S2000 weighs 2800 lbs. That's almost a half ton(!) more than the Lotus Elise.
American population likes there cars overweight just like them. You know we have to have five jumbo cup in a four seat car. And I can't live without my creature comforts. And if you remove a cup holder the sensor that heats your coffee mugs trigger the ECU to throw and engine light. Yet some of the best sports cars are shunned by American's cause they are to loud, uncomfortable, no cup holders, just to raw, or cause there engine isn't traditional 8 cylinder. Don't get me wrong I love all my vehicles. Yet the HP/LBS ratio is somtimes better from a 4 or 6 cylinder than the bigger motored cars.
First thing people say when they get in my car is where are your cup holder. And I usually quote a line from Bad Boys...you know "you paid 80K for car and its got no cup holders"....."actually it is was 110K and it limited edition baby"...."you damn right its limited no cup holders no back seat, it just a shinny dick and we just the ***** dragging the f*** along"
First thing people say when they get in my car is where are your cup holder. And I usually quote a line from Bad Boys...you know "you paid 80K for car and its got no cup holders"....."actually it is was 110K and it limited edition baby"...."you damn right its limited no cup holders no back seat, it just a shinny dick and we just the ***** dragging the f*** along"








