Whats up guys,I was looking into a single stage external oil pump from a few companies,before i actually go and buy one is it allowed in Sfwd and T4.
The one i'm lookin into has no vacuum,and also allows alternator.

Any info would help.

 

i am 99.9% sure they allow it. I run one on my car

 

If you are looking at the Moroso unit that is a single stage wet sump external pump system it is allowed. Like you said, it can have no vacuum and no reserve oil tanks.

 

looking at the general guidlines it stated that Drysumps systems were allowed in the T4 class......I called Glen on this the other day...and he said it was ok...

Just to confirm once again:

DrySump?
Any turbo size?
Any Tire Size as long as you only cut 1" off the fender wells?
VP C-56/Import?
Any fabricated Aluminum suspension parts as long as they still use the stock mounting points?

Hopefully nothing has changed since I spoke with Glen....the car is almost ready to head to the powdercoaters!

Howard

 

No drysumps allowed, only wet sump single stage pumps allowed. Everything else is as you stated Howard.


External Oil Pump, Honda
Single Stage
Reverse Rotation

No. 25610

Fits: Honda 1.6L, 1.8L & 2.0L engines.

Same rotor and scrolll (Gerotor) design as our famous 3, 4, 4 and one- half, and 5 Stage Dry Sump Pumps
Eliminates stock oil pump failures
Includes pressure section specifically sized for Honda appliactions (Contact Moroso Custom Department for unique requirements)
External pressure adjustment allows a plus or minus 30 psi range from factory setting of 60 psi






No.
Description/Application

25610 (NEW)
External Oil Pump, Single Stage, Reverse Rotation. Inlet and outlet holes are -10AN thread.




Accessories:
Nos 23750 pr 23766 - Oil Filter Mount
No 23815 - Filter Block-Off
No 25710 - Drive Kit
No 23498 - Pump Mount Bracket
No 22459 or 22466 - Oil Filter

 

ut oh......


BTW...I had to trim the core support some for the turbo manifold and radiator....thats cool right?...oh and maybe the Waste gate goes through the corner of the headlight too...but its totally functional still!


we didnt have to cut the bumper as much as everyone else does either...the turbo hangs out in front of it...

here's a couple of pics



Howard


Modified by AR Fab at 1:16 PM 2/10/2005


Modified by AR Fab at 1:28 PM 2/10/2005

 

You are allowed to remove one headlight for competition.

 

Thanks for all the info guys,greatly appreciated.

Anyone from NHRA wanna chime in on this?

 

I doubt I want to trap 150+ w/o a headlight.......rip the hood off....

 

You think that car will go 150

 

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That engine and suspension setup in that car trapped 158 w/o wheelie bars.....

 

What does it trap with a body on it though?

 

howard that looks crazy and awesome and fun all in one.

Good to see a wild new set-up in that class. hope it works out well.

150+ trap, would be awesome but you know trap speed doesn't win races E.T. does. But if you get it to the ground in 1st and 2nd and trap that kind of speed WOOOOOWWWWW that'll be quik

 

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:cough:low blow:cough:

 

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Yup...it is...Im hoping to be close to the weight we ran those speeds at...we shall see...Im losing 25#'s on the drysump system now...hehe

The carbon hatch is on the way too...

Howard

 

You crazy ******, lol, this thing looks awesome.. I can't wait to see it on the track.. Thats the reason I love this shop, can make anything and everything work.. Goodluck on the dyno..Keep me posted..

Oh yea, i'm in Las Vegas visiting mom, and the supra runs great..Had it out in the desert crankin 150..lol, you know how I roll..

I'll see ya next weekend with the hatch..

Take care,
Pickle


Modified by 1FSTHATCH at 9:42 AM 2/11/2005

 

that's cool

we didn't have to cut as much as you did

 

Im gonna replace 95% of what I cut out....just needed to make room in a hurry....lol...cut too much on the first try...

Howard

 

Sounds like a good idea to me.

 

Does anyone have pics of the external oil pump installed on the motor?
please post pics if so.

 

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Read the rules...you guys state that Dry Sumps are legal in the T4 and T6 general rules.... 4.11 no vacuum pumps are allowed....

As a matter-of-fact the T4 is in red ink this year as opposed to last years rules...meaning it was new for the year...

Listen guys...there is no differences between the wet or dry sumps....just think the sump tank is added weight....we have a dry sump here...and im not happy to purchase anything else...

What happened if (lets say for the arguement) the new ZO6 Corvette was to run in the class....would you whine that the factory put a drysump on the car?

Im just saying yes there is no advantage to having one except you will definetly have less oilpump failures in the class....

I cant ever win...I read the rules and they change faster than I can build the car...geeez...

Howard

 

Hey Howard, a Z-06 is not a Sport Compact, so he would'nt be able to run.

Hey Howard, e-mail me. I was going to call you and just have'nt had a chance yet.

 

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It was just a point.......

Ok...word is the new Skyline thats coming over has a drysump....lol


Howard

 

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Ok...word is the new Skyline thats coming over has a drysump....lol

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uhmmmmm are you sure =P i'm not saying i know and i'm not saying i don't i just work for infinit and i'm going to be working on them =P

 

I know alot of Ferrari's have dry sumps, can they race? lol

For what it's worth, the IS a definite advantage to a dry sump system, why do you think so many race cars run them? There is power there...