allright- i have a 97 honda prelude w/ h22a4 and im looking into getting a turbo put on her- whats a better way to go at this- with kits, or with buying parts seperately- what should i get for kits/parts- i am trying to spend around 5 grand- but i can spare a few g's more or less- SO any help would be GREATLY apreciated- thank you

 

How many horses you plan on riding?

 

its not sh- left that out

 

as many horses as i can squeeze out of that money-

 

greddy kit, wideband o2 and good tuning.

 

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Well with that amount of cash you almost have to get a full kit. Like the GReddy, FMAX, or DRAG. Problem is your gonna be limited to 7-9lbs of boost. Any higher and your gonna have to sleeve and upgrade your block or your engine wont last long.

Remmember to NOT go shy on tunning. Thats the one area that is most important.

 

Greddy kits suck ***** in my opinion. They make **** for power.

Drag is my favorite 'kit' but going custom is always the better route.

 

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this is the best way to go if you want boost and don't have a ton experience with turbos setups. if it is your first time (which i am assuming it is) with a turbo setup, when piecing it together separately, you will run into a lot of little items that you didn't know you needed, or will spend a lot of money trying to make this part fit that one in this space, etc.

a good kit like the greddy one (the one with the IC included ) would be a good way to start.

of course, there are a lot of kits out there, research and find out which one you think fits your application the best.

the tune is all important.

 

im aiming at around 15 psi - what kits will be able to handle and produce this- and what other stock internals will need replaced on top of sleeves and pistons

 

for 15 psi out of anything you will be doubling your budget at least.

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Drag is my favorite 'kit' but going custom is always the better route.</TD></TR></TABLE>

big numbers dont always get you there faster. if you cant get traction what does 500 whp do for you? besides give you massive bragging rights lol.

anything over 400whp is for people with itty bitty dingies

 

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big numbers dont always get you there faster. if you cant get traction what does 500 whp do for you? besides give you massive bragging rights lol.

anything over 400whp is for people with itty bitty dingies </TD></TR></TABLE>

Since when does a drag kit get you 500whp? With greddy you are looking at low 200's compared to mid 200's with a drag kit. Sorry, but if I'm forking out 3k on a kit you bet your ******* *** I'm going to want as much as possible. Years and years ago when I had a simple drag gen 2 kit I was cutting 8.7's on the 1/8th mile and 13.8s on the quarter with slicks untuned. That was with 1.7 60 fts in a pig *** prelude... pretty decent for traction huh douggy?

If you want 15psi you'll need sleeves, pistons, rods, etc. Basically around $3,000 for a shortblock rebuild. Trust me, 250whp at 7psi will be all you'll want for a while. Either way custom is always the best route to go.

 

what bout revhard, imo its better than the greddy kit

 

true to the traction... never thought about that- but to be completly honest ive got 10 grand that was willed to me- but i want to do a little body work to the car- what is feesable(spelling is bad) for around 15psi MAX- i didnt mean to make it sound like i wanted 15 constantly- but ya i would like some horses to play with

 

on a stock bottom end, im pretty sure you cannot boost 15 psi for any period of time at all, if you will tak eit above 7 or 8 as A/V said, sleeving, lower comp.. is a must

 

i was giving you **** about having gobs of power. calm yourself.

 

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I'm just giving you **** because you have no poWah. hehe

I know you were messing with me but these other guys don't. You won't believe the amount of people that read something and automatically think it's true.

 

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I'm just giving you **** because you have no poWah. hehe

I know you were messing with me but these other guys don't. You won't believe the amount of people that read something and automatically think it's true.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have power... i spun through second twice today. on wait, -2 degrees camber plus balding tires = no traction over a small area

 

I must say i have never heard or seen a GReddy kit make more than 250whp. Go custom, its limits will only be what you set them at.

 

greddy = slower spool
greddy = not much potential for higher power
greddy = dumb
greddy =

HOWEVER! If you want to be C.A.R.B. legal in California... greddy =

But I'm in CA, and I still say to greddy.

I'm going custom... I'm going illegal



Hey if you look at all those thumbsup/down really quick from left to right, IT LOOKS LIKE FLYING DOVES!.............. Ok, I'll lay off the crack.

 

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What the hell are you talking about? The kit makes over 200 torque at the wheels below 3k rpm. I saw the kit do this on a 5th gen with an AUTO tranny.

 

Yep... greddy will actually have a faster spool because it utilizes a smaller turblow. Another thing that sucks about those kits is the intercooler is extra. What kind of 'kit' doesn't come with an intercooler?

 

cars have come turbo'd without intercoolers for years. its no different then running a jackson. no its not the smartest thing to do but it does work when tuned properly.

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greddy = slower spool
greddy = not much potential for higher power
greddy = dumb
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WTF?!?!

greddy = faster spool (better from light to light)
greddy = possible to pull a good ammount of power. not tons, but 300whp is doable.
greddy = one of the best designed "out of box" kits on the market. no stupid FMU bullshit they give you the Emanage which does just fine. they also give you EVERYTHING you need to properly run the kits. if you need new injectors they supply that, etc etc.

 

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It is different actually and when running an aftermarket kit on a honda per say you don't want to go over 4-5psi without an intercooler. When stock turbo cars are designed they are engineered most of the times with TINY turbo's and preventative measures to keep IAT's down. A regular t3 dwarfs some of the stock turbo's you'll come across.

As far as greddy being the best out of the box, the 'bolt-on' kits are missing something called an intercooler. Sorry, but that's a design flaw. They do offer IC upgrades... they simply left them out to seem the price more appealing to your typical low budget set-ups.

You're 0/4. Give up while you're ahead.

 

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It is different actually and when running an aftermarket kit on a honda per say you don't want to go over 4-5psi without an intercooler. When stock turbo cars are designed they are engineered most of the times with TINY turbo's and preventative measures to keep IAT's down. A regular t3 dwarfs some of the stock turbo's you'll come across.

As far as greddy being the best out of the box, the 'bolt-on' kits are missing something called an intercooler. Sorry, but that's a design flaw. They do offer IC upgrades... they simply left them out to seem the price more appealing to your typical low budget set-ups.

You're 0/4. Give up while you're ahead. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i should hit you for that comment.

 

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Drag is my favorite 'kit' but going custom is always the better route.</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed

the greddy kit is a waste of money i find, don't look for performance if you want a greddy kit