Slightly OT: Selling my ITR and buyer wants me to use securevehicle.us?
Sorry if this is too off-topic, but like the title says, I'm selling my ITR and have a potential buyer for it. However, he would like to use an online escrow service called http://www.securevehicle.us to pay for it. Apparently, he sends them the money for my car, they notify me that they have the funds, he can come and check out the car for a determined time period (car is now technically paid for so I don't necessarily have to worry about joy rides), if he decides he wants it I notify securevehicle.us and they wire the funds to my bank account and we complete the sale. Does not sound like too bad of a deal, but I have never heard of securevehicle.us and can't find any information about it other than what is on their webpage.
Have any of you guys heard of this service? Also for those of you with time on your hands, if you could check out the site and let me know what you think (bogus or not) I would appreciate it. It looks legit to me, but so many car scams out there I'm paranoid.
Have any of you guys heard of this service? Also for those of you with time on your hands, if you could check out the site and let me know what you think (bogus or not) I would appreciate it. It looks legit to me, but so many car scams out there I'm paranoid.
Please be very careful, there are many SQL errors on the site. So unprofessional...
Also, they claiming that
"Due to enormous number of phone calls and lack of operators, we had to initiate automated answering machine where you can leave all your questions and comments.
(310) 361-8320, 9AM - 5PM EST, Mon-Fri "
One other thing, when you go register or login, they don't use SSL(Security Socket Layer) the little lock on the bottom of the web browser... website don't use SSL meaning it's not secure under any circumstances when you passing personal and credit card information.
So be very careful, and triple check make sure they are a valid company of what they do.
Also, they claiming that
"Due to enormous number of phone calls and lack of operators, we had to initiate automated answering machine where you can leave all your questions and comments.
(310) 361-8320, 9AM - 5PM EST, Mon-Fri "
One other thing, when you go register or login, they don't use SSL(Security Socket Layer) the little lock on the bottom of the web browser... website don't use SSL meaning it's not secure under any circumstances when you passing personal and credit card information.
So be very careful, and triple check make sure they are a valid company of what they do.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR0952 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please be very careful, there are many SQL errors on the site. So unprofessional...
Also, they claiming that
"Due to enormous number of phone calls and lack of operators, we had to initiate automated answering machine where you can leave all your questions and comments.
(310) 361-8320, 9AM - 5PM EST, Mon-Fri "
One other thing, when you go register or login, they don't use SSL(Security Socket Layer) the little lock on the bottom of the web browser... website don't use SSL meaning it's not secure under any circumstances when you passing personal and credit card information.
So be very careful, and triple check make sure they are a valid company of what they do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I noticed the same thing. I haven't called the phone number yet but in case it is a scam, I didn't think calling the number would be all that helpful anyway. I'm feeling more uneasy about this...
Also, they claiming that
"Due to enormous number of phone calls and lack of operators, we had to initiate automated answering machine where you can leave all your questions and comments.
(310) 361-8320, 9AM - 5PM EST, Mon-Fri "
One other thing, when you go register or login, they don't use SSL(Security Socket Layer) the little lock on the bottom of the web browser... website don't use SSL meaning it's not secure under any circumstances when you passing personal and credit card information.
So be very careful, and triple check make sure they are a valid company of what they do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I noticed the same thing. I haven't called the phone number yet but in case it is a scam, I didn't think calling the number would be all that helpful anyway. I'm feeling more uneasy about this...
Domain Name: SECUREVEHICLE.US
Domain ID: D7015345-US
Sponsoring Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: BFF362FF29344903
Registrant Name: Patrick Dias
Registrant Organization: Secure Vehicle
Registrant Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Registrant City: Miami
Registrant State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Registrant Postal Code: 33102
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Registrant Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Registrant Application Purpose: P1
Registrant Nexus Category: C11
Administrative Contact ID: E947EAF85FCE41D6
Administrative Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Administrative Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Administrative Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Administrative Contact City: Miami
Administrative Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 33102
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Administrative Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Administrative Application Purpose: P1
Administrative Nexus Category: C11
Billing Contact ID: FA68AE4380C92737
Billing Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Billing Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Billing Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Billing Contact City: Miami
Billing Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Billing Contact Postal Code: 33102
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Billing Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Billing Application Purpose: P1
Billing Nexus Category: C11
Technical Contact ID: 35CA089A5A991F9E
Technical Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Technical Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Technical Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Technical Contact City: Miami
Technical Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Technical Contact Postal Code: 33102
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Technical Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Technical Application Purpose: P1
Technical Nexus Category: C11
Name Server: NS1.ISQSOLUTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.ISQSOLUTIONS.COM
Created by Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Last Updated by Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Domain Registration Date: Mon Dec 06 07:23:19 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date: Mon Dec 05 23:59:59 GMT 2005
Domain Last Updated Date: Tue Jan 25 17:47:46 GMT 2005
>>>> Whois database was last updated on: Wed Feb 09 20:57:51 GMT 2005 <<<<
NeuStar, Inc., the Registry Administrator for .US, has collected this
information for the WHOIS database through a .US-Accredited Registrar.
This information is provided to you for informati
Uwhois Inc. does not gurantee the accuracy of the above information which is supplied by third parties to whom all rights belong.
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It's a private held domain name, most likely to be scam.. I am going to see if I can report this domain name.
companies has very limited funds uses PHP and MYSQL... I can set one up in matter of 30 mins. Open source, totally unsupported.
Domain ID: D7015345-US
Sponsoring Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: BFF362FF29344903
Registrant Name: Patrick Dias
Registrant Organization: Secure Vehicle
Registrant Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Registrant City: Miami
Registrant State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Registrant Postal Code: 33102
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Registrant Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Registrant Application Purpose: P1
Registrant Nexus Category: C11
Administrative Contact ID: E947EAF85FCE41D6
Administrative Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Administrative Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Administrative Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Administrative Contact City: Miami
Administrative Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 33102
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Administrative Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Administrative Application Purpose: P1
Administrative Nexus Category: C11
Billing Contact ID: FA68AE4380C92737
Billing Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Billing Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Billing Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Billing Contact City: Miami
Billing Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Billing Contact Postal Code: 33102
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Billing Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Billing Application Purpose: P1
Billing Nexus Category: C11
Technical Contact ID: 35CA089A5A991F9E
Technical Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Technical Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Technical Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Technical Contact City: Miami
Technical Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Technical Contact Postal Code: 33102
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Technical Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Technical Application Purpose: P1
Technical Nexus Category: C11
Name Server: NS1.ISQSOLUTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.ISQSOLUTIONS.COM
Created by Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Last Updated by Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Domain Registration Date: Mon Dec 06 07:23:19 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date: Mon Dec 05 23:59:59 GMT 2005
Domain Last Updated Date: Tue Jan 25 17:47:46 GMT 2005
>>>> Whois database was last updated on: Wed Feb 09 20:57:51 GMT 2005 <<<<
NeuStar, Inc., the Registry Administrator for .US, has collected this
information for the WHOIS database through a .US-Accredited Registrar.
This information is provided to you for informati
Uwhois Inc. does not gurantee the accuracy of the above information which is supplied by third parties to whom all rights belong.
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It's a private held domain name, most likely to be scam.. I am going to see if I can report this domain name.
companies has very limited funds uses PHP and MYSQL... I can set one up in matter of 30 mins. Open source, totally unsupported.
Sounds too sketchy to me. I don't like the thought of money transfer escrow stuff.... If he's so worried about it, tell him to have his bank wire the money from his account to your bank account. All he needs is your name and routing number, which is a general number used by all banks all over the world so there is nothing that can be stollen from you. It is very safe. I have used this method several times to pay for parts over seas.
If this guy is coming to pick up the car, what's the harm in paying cash? Definately DO NOT accept any type of check or money order of any kind!!! Also another option is if the guy comes to pick up the car and he's too paranoid about carrying a ton of cash, you both can go to one of his bank branches and they can cut you a bank check right there.
So.... NO:
Escrow
Personal Checks
Money Orders
Don't be like that guy that was on here a few months back that got scammed out of his mint EK.
Aloha,
Brandon
If this guy is coming to pick up the car, what's the harm in paying cash? Definately DO NOT accept any type of check or money order of any kind!!! Also another option is if the guy comes to pick up the car and he's too paranoid about carrying a ton of cash, you both can go to one of his bank branches and they can cut you a bank check right there.
So.... NO:
Escrow
Personal Checks
Money Orders
Don't be like that guy that was on here a few months back that got scammed out of his mint EK.
Aloha,
Brandon
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Originally Posted by ITR0952
Domain Name: SECUREVEHICLE.US
Domain ID: D7015345-US
Sponsoring Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: BFF362FF29344903
Registrant Name: Patrick Dias
Registrant Organization: Secure Vehicle
Registrant Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Registrant City: Miami
Registrant State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Registrant Postal Code: 33102
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Registrant Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Registrant Application Purpose: P1
Registrant Nexus Category: C11
Administrative Contact ID: E947EAF85FCE41D6
Administrative Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Administrative Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Administrative Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Administrative Contact City: Miami
Administrative Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 33102
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Administrative Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Administrative Application Purpose: P1
Administrative Nexus Category: C11
Billing Contact ID: FA68AE4380C92737
Billing Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Billing Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Billing Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Billing Contact City: Miami
Billing Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Billing Contact Postal Code: 33102
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Billing Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Billing Application Purpose: P1
Billing Nexus Category: C11
Technical Contact ID: 35CA089A5A991F9E
Technical Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Technical Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Technical Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Technical Contact City: Miami
Technical Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Technical Contact Postal Code: 33102
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Technical Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Technical Application Purpose: P1
Technical Nexus Category: C11
Name Server: NS1.ISQSOLUTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.ISQSOLUTIONS.COM
Created by Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Last Updated by Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Domain Registration Date: Mon Dec 06 07:23:19 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date: Mon Dec 05 23:59:59 GMT 2005
Domain Last Updated Date: Tue Jan 25 17:47:46 GMT 2005
>>>> Whois database was last updated on: Wed Feb 09 20:57:51 GMT 2005 <<<<
NeuStar, Inc., the Registry Administrator for .US, has collected this
information for the WHOIS database through a .US-Accredited Registrar.
This information is provided to you for informati
Uwhois Inc. does not gurantee the accuracy of the above information which is supplied by third parties to whom all rights belong.
--------------
It's a private held domain name, most likely to be scam.. I am going to see if I can report this domain name.
companies has very limited funds uses PHP and MYSQL... I can set one up in matter of 30 mins. Open source, totally unsupported.
Domain ID: D7015345-US
Sponsoring Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: BFF362FF29344903
Registrant Name: Patrick Dias
Registrant Organization: Secure Vehicle
Registrant Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Registrant City: Miami
Registrant State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Registrant Postal Code: 33102
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Registrant Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Registrant Application Purpose: P1
Registrant Nexus Category: C11
Administrative Contact ID: E947EAF85FCE41D6
Administrative Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Administrative Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Administrative Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Administrative Contact City: Miami
Administrative Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 33102
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Administrative Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Administrative Application Purpose: P1
Administrative Nexus Category: C11
Billing Contact ID: FA68AE4380C92737
Billing Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Billing Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Billing Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Billing Contact City: Miami
Billing Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Billing Contact Postal Code: 33102
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Billing Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Billing Application Purpose: P1
Billing Nexus Category: C11
Technical Contact ID: 35CA089A5A991F9E
Technical Contact Name: Patrick Dias
Technical Contact Organization: Secure Vehicle
Technical Contact Address1: SKB9101, 1601 NW
Technical Contact City: Miami
Technical Contact State/Province: #1040;#1044;
Technical Contact Postal Code: 33102
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.8694698252
Technical Contact Email: stevekenworthy@hotmail.com
Technical Application Purpose: P1
Technical Nexus Category: C11
Name Server: NS1.ISQSOLUTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.ISQSOLUTIONS.COM
Created by Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Last Updated by Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Domain Registration Date: Mon Dec 06 07:23:19 GMT 2004
Domain Expiration Date: Mon Dec 05 23:59:59 GMT 2005
Domain Last Updated Date: Tue Jan 25 17:47:46 GMT 2005
>>>> Whois database was last updated on: Wed Feb 09 20:57:51 GMT 2005 <<<<
NeuStar, Inc., the Registry Administrator for .US, has collected this
information for the WHOIS database through a .US-Accredited Registrar.
This information is provided to you for informati
Uwhois Inc. does not gurantee the accuracy of the above information which is supplied by third parties to whom all rights belong.
--------------
It's a private held domain name, most likely to be scam.. I am going to see if I can report this domain name.
companies has very limited funds uses PHP and MYSQL... I can set one up in matter of 30 mins. Open source, totally unsupported.
Wow! And people say no one on H-T helps eachother anymore
. Thanks a lot for looking that up. I owe you a
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Haleiwa-Brando »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds too sketchy to me. I don't like the thought of money transfer escrow stuff.... If he's so worried about it, tell him to have his bank wire the money from his account to your bank account. All he needs is your name and routing number, which is a general number used by all banks all over the world so there is nothing that can be stollen from you. It is very safe. I have used this method several times to pay for parts over seas.
If this guy is coming to pick up the car, what's the harm in paying cash? Definately DO NOT accept any type of check or money order of any kind!!! Also another option is if the guy comes to pick up the car and he's too paranoid about carrying a ton of cash, you both can go to one of his bank branches and they can cut you a bank check right there.
So.... NO:
Escrow
Personal Checks
Money Orders
Don't be like that guy that was on here a few months back that got scammed out of his mint EK.
Aloha,
Brandon</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, I saw that post too. I had no intention of taking anything but a bank check (had to clear my bank first) or cash for payment until this offer came along. I think I will stick to my game plan...
If this guy is coming to pick up the car, what's the harm in paying cash? Definately DO NOT accept any type of check or money order of any kind!!! Also another option is if the guy comes to pick up the car and he's too paranoid about carrying a ton of cash, you both can go to one of his bank branches and they can cut you a bank check right there.
So.... NO:
Escrow
Personal Checks
Money Orders
Don't be like that guy that was on here a few months back that got scammed out of his mint EK.
Aloha,
Brandon</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, I saw that post too. I had no intention of taking anything but a bank check (had to clear my bank first) or cash for payment until this offer came along. I think I will stick to my game plan...
I would say a US postal Money order is going to be fine as long as your two can make it to the post office before the end of the day.... A safer way of carring money. and it costs under a $1.00 to get.
Also, why is the administrative contact in Miami Florida...From my business experience...and i hate to say it...You have to be extra careful when it comes to doing business with those in Florida...Many criminals operate out of there.
By phone
(310) 361-8320, 9AM - 5PM EST, Mon-Fri
By fax
(310) 361-8320, 24 hour a day
The phone number for Phone and Fax are the SAME NUMBER. I called, it did indeed sound like a fax machine. I tried my best to make squealing noises in the shape of a GTFO.
SCAMMER!
(310) 361-8320, 9AM - 5PM EST, Mon-Fri
By fax
(310) 361-8320, 24 hour a day
The phone number for Phone and Fax are the SAME NUMBER. I called, it did indeed sound like a fax machine. I tried my best to make squealing noises in the shape of a GTFO.
SCAMMER!
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never use an online escrow service. find a local escrow service in your area..you as the seller should always pick your own escrow service. if the buyer doesnt want to agree then walk away. in other words you control the sell not the buyer.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stein »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't a Cashier's Check another secure way?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would only take that after the bank has verified it. There are many fake checks around these days.
I would only take that after the bank has verified it. There are many fake checks around these days.
they wire you the cash
and then 2 weeks later the bank seizes the funds from you because it was from a bounced check.
and then 2 weeks later the bank seizes the funds from you because it was from a bounced check.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanceh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, what legit company has their DNS contacts listed with a hotmail account?</TD></TR></TABLE>
lets run down the scam:
1) hotmail email
2) only been up 2 months
3) lots of poorly written unsecured code
4) youre a definate lamer original poster for even considering it.
lets run down the scam:
1) hotmail email
2) only been up 2 months
3) lots of poorly written unsecured code
4) youre a definate lamer original poster for even considering it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> never use an online escrow service. find a local escrow service in your area..you as the seller should always pick your own escrow service. if the buyer doesnt want to agree then walk away. in other words you control the sell not the buyer. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Excellent Statement!
Aloha,
Brandon
Excellent Statement!

Aloha,
Brandon
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