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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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im doing a gsr swap in my 91 hatch and i was wondering if i should do a OBD1 or should i stay with my OBD0 harness? Should i get a LSD tranny or keep my LS?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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These are the things i would do to keep the swap simple and cheap:

Wire the engine obd0, use a pr3 ecu.
Use a Skunk2 Intake manifold
I HIGHLY recommend a b16 cable tranny. <-- cant stress this enough.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by untitled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wire the engine obd0, use a pr3 ecu.
Use a Skunk2 Intake manifold
I HIGHLY recommend a b16 cable tranny. &lt;-- cant stress this enough.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a pr4 ecu and my skunk2 intake manny is coming in. what kind of tranny is that?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by untitled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I HIGHLY recommend a b16 cable tranny. &lt;-- cant stress this enough.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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umm pr4 is definetly the wrong ecu to have. That ecu is for a ls engine.

You havent heard of a b16 tranny? thats just a little self explanatory, its the tranny that comes with jdm b16 swaps and the cltuch is engaged by a cable instead of a hydro system.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by untitled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">umm pr4 is definetly the wrong ecu to have. That ecu is for a ls engine.

You havent heard of a b16 tranny? thats just a little self explanatory, its the tranny that comes with jdm b16 swaps and the cltuch is engaged by a cable instead of a hydro system. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then what is a pr3 ecu? ummm so the b16 tranny is better than a ls tranny?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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i would take a hydro tranny ED over a cable tranny ED any day of the the week
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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ok... im done, you need to seriously do some hardcore research. Im sick of replying to threads like these every 3 hours with a shitload of info thats already available by searching and/or the FAQ posted above.

hyrdo &gt; cable

But im cheap... and i really enjoy very simple things.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchBox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would take a hydro tranny ED over a cable tranny ED any day of the the week </TD></TR></TABLE>

Trus but is it hard to convert over from cable to hydro?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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hasport has a conversion kit.

Hatchbox tell this guy what he needs to know, i think ill get carpel tunnel if i reply to one more of these threads b/c im so pissed off when i do.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91jdm_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then what is a pr3 ecu? ummm so the b16 tranny is better than a ls tranny?</TD></TR></TABLE>

PR3 is OBD0 Came with the jdm B16 motor

B16 has shorter gears due to vtec
LS has longer gears .

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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91jdm_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Trus but is it hard to convert over from cable to hydro?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you need the hasport cable to hydrolic transmission kit.


Click on the search button at the top right hand side of the page.

type in 'Hydro conversion', Select this room and click archieves

Repeat by typing in "B18c1 swap'.....Enjoy you new information
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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I would personally convert it to obd1....You can get a slick *** conversion harness for like $104 shipped...OR you can just get the pinouts and go get some FREE wire clips at the junkyard and do the wiring yourself. Not that hard at all.

I'm currently working on my obd0-&gt;1 harness for my ls/vtec in my CRX. Only reason why I'm going to obd1 is becasue I'll be using uberdata for the management. TurboEdit is great and all...but dealing iwth the PS9 ecu is kind of a pain in the ***...not to mention the "limit" of 450cc injectors in TE is a pain (Yeah I know you can manaully adjust each row, but **** that ... I'm not going to do that much work).


For your tranny...get something that is shorter geared than the LS....if you ever plan to drag race you'll only use 2 and half gears for a 1/4.

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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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untitled sorry i pissed you off but i kno this stuff then i would not be asking these questions. im just trying to get a little help from you guys who are just smart on stuff like this because you have done some of these things or kno what to do in these type of situation.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by untitled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hasport has a conversion kit.

Hatchbox tell this guy what he needs to know, i think ill get carpel tunnel if i reply to one more of these threads b/c im so pissed off when i do. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I need the little smily that says "i concur"
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91jdm_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">untitled sorry i pissed you off but i kno this stuff then i would not be asking these questions. im just trying to get a little help from you guys who are just smart on stuff like this because you have done some of these things or kno what to do in these type of situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no prob brother, you semm alrgiht.

If you can, go obd1. Evasive Motorsports sells there conv harnesses for $59 shipped i think, something hella low. Boomslang also sells conv harnesses here for $74 shipped and they are VERY high quality.

Its just that 2 of these b16 swap what do i need threads were already locked today.


OT: why is it that its us 3 posting everywhere in conjuction...lmao
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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im on my othe name now cause i can only do 5 posts but untitled thank you for your help. im just trying to have a fast all motor built.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91jdm_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">untitled sorry i pissed you off but i kno this stuff then i would not be asking these questions. im just trying to get a little help from you guys who are just smart on stuff like this because you have done some of these things or kno what to do in these type of situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its great that you want to learn but just like in school you cant just ask questions the whole time, you gotta read the book. Take some time to search HT and a majority of your questions will be answered. I know sometimes there may be things you dont understand and you need some help with and those are appropriate times to ask questions but try to keep them as narrow and specific as possible. Enjoy Honda Tech it can be a beautiful thing
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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no prob brother, you semm alrgiht.

If you can, go obd1. Evasive Motorsports sells there conv harnesses for $59 shipped i think, something hella low. Boomslang also sells conv harnesses here for $74 shipped and they are VERY high quality.

Its just that 2 of these b16 swap what do i need threads were already locked today.


OT: why is it that its us 3 posting everywhere in conjuction...lmao</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought boomslangs harness was $104...that was what I was talkin about in my earlier post.


OT: We have nothing else better to do ?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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thanks steemo
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Steemo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its great that you want to learn but just like in school you cant just ask questions the whole time, you gotta read the book. Take some time to search HT and a majority of your questions will be answered. I know sometimes there may be things you dont understand and you need some help with and those are appropriate times to ask questions but try to keep them as narrow and specific as possible. Enjoy Honda Tech it can be a beautiful thing </TD></TR></TABLE>

Search first and then come with specific questions, it helps HT as a whole and will eventually make it easier to find the specific things by searching... Understand?

P.S. i like that school analogy, well put.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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OT: why is it that its us 3 posting everywhere in conjuction...lmao</TD></TR></TABLE>

was thinking the same thing
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by untitled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">These are the things i would do to keep the swap simple and cheap:

Wire the engine obd0, use a pr3 ecu.
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He has a GSR swap...you tell him to use a PR3 ECU which is for a B16. Hmm 1.6L vs. 1.8L

Also...he is going to have to go out and find pins to add to his stock harness...not easy to do and not for this guy it seems.

If you are going OBD1, find Blown90Hatch on here and buy his OBD0--&gt;OBD1 conversion harness, find a 4-wire O2 sensor and be done with it (as long as your 'swap' comes with the proper ECU and a working distributor)
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ssl2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TurboEdit is great and all...but dealing iwth the PS9 ecu is kind of a pain in the ***...not to mention the "limit" of 450cc injectors in TE is a pain (Yeah I know you can manaully adjust each row, but **** that ... I'm not going to do that much work). </TD></TR></TABLE>

What work? Just download my TE basemapping program and you can input ANY size injectors and it calculates it for you

http://www.xenocron.com/programs.htm
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