I have a b16 with 190walbro/fpr/short raim/4-1 header dented to hell/thermal classic.

I can now see why B series EF owners put down LS motors/LS,Turbo/sohc turbo/sohcvtec turbo setups. I tried to not be biased but facts or facts. These were the best races i've had with honda owners. where the drivers actually knew how to actually drive.

when you have a b16/17/18 in your EF your car is so much faster.

my kill list: turbos were fmic'd
5th gen hatch sohc vtec Turbo at 7psi
5th gen 4dr LS Turbo at 6-7psi
88-89 CRX Si junkyard Turbo 7psi
90-91 Civic sohc vtec with ZEX
92 Integra GSR bolt ons and fuel upgrades

yesterday i got beat by a 5thgen LS Turbo hatch by like 10 feet and not pulling at end but he even had more done to his car then the above rest.

 

damn dood there are not even that many seriously modded hondas in my area.....**** me B16ED, my buddy built turbo GSR, and his GF B18CEG have the fastest honda in town.....

 

So you are saying you beat all those cars with your setup?

Your stock B16 with just a fuel pump and I/H/E beat turbo cars that probably pushing somehwere in the 180hp range? And these people knew how to drive???

 

you never know...all those cars could be full interior and his stripped to heckola!!

 

this all started with me saying i only dyno at 141whp 103tq at 7500 leaning out the guy didnt believe me. but i can beat your friend who has 1.5 non-vtec sohc turbo 93 hatch dx that runs 12.9 theres no way a 5th gen with that setup can run that.. well after the race it was actually a LS/Turbo with fmic which threw me off gaurd. by the end of 4th i thought i was pulling on him a bit mustofbeenmyeyesdecievingme.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daidilus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you never know...all those cars could be full interior and his stripped to heckola!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

the stripped ones were the EFs and the others just had the rear of them stripped.

btw i raced a Ram air hood style 00-01 Ws6 T/A 6spd had k&n intake and SLP performance headers and pipes all the way to 130mph with my s1 tranny. 1st 2nd i was there 3rd he started pulling, 4th i hanged on to him still 5th he started pulling. beginning of 3rd and 5th are weak 3rd to 4th transition is sweet.

i lost by 2 car lengths at 130mph and him pulling away slowly. we turn aroudn and go back to sheets guy proceeds to say yeh i wasnt getting on it alot. BS i heard the dude hit his revlimiter and his car was screaming, raping the **** out of his car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you are saying you beat all those cars with your setup?

Your stock B16 with just a fuel pump and I/H/E beat turbo cars that probably pushing somehwere in the 180hp range? And these people knew how to drive???</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i'm thinking....

someone has a bad crack addiction and it's affecting his judgement.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PaImportTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I can now see why B series EF owners put down LS motors/LS,Turbo/sohc turbo/sohcvtec turbo setups. I tried to not be biased but facts or facts. These were the best races i've had with honda owners. where the drivers actually knew how to actually drive.

when you have a b16/17/18 in your EF your car is so much faster.
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I'm going to appologize right away for being a ***** but since when has an LS motor not been a B series?

None of those cars are ****. Fastest car out of that bunch is going to be lucky to break into the 14s. Is your car stripped out? Did you have a passenger? Did they? All from a dead stop or were some of them from a roll?

Again I'm sorry for being a *****, but seriously, those cars aren't ****. Why not post up a list of stock neon's and sunfires you've walked on.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRwBOOST &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats what i'm thinking....

someone has a bad crack addiction and it's affecting his judgement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey i dont expect you to believe me you ******* idiot. i said what i experience and what i know i'm not one of your rice boy members you need to recognize bitches. i have no reason to lie. the fact of the matter is the lsturbo 5th gen hatch is a member on here and doesnt want anyone to know who he is/where hes from.

your judgement is affect by your birth inherited stupidity

 

was this 5th gen an Si? Weight is the only thing that will help that situation even then dude must not have known how to drive if the end result was only a couple feet

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ssl2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm going to appologize right away for being a ***** but since when has an LS motor not been a B series?

None of those cars are ****. Fastest car out of that bunch is going to be lucky to break into the 14s. Is your car stripped out? Did you have a passenger? Did they? All from a dead stop or were some of them from a roll?

Again I'm sorry for being a *****, but seriously, those cars aren't ****. Why not post up a list of stock neon's and sunfires you've walked on. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Bseries vtec i should of said.

everytime i raced it was balanced some of them it was them solely and me and my 125lb wife.
YESTERDAY it was me and him alone. no passengers from a stop flagged down by his friend on a 2way street sharing the same 1 lane in broad daylight in front of an audio/bodykit shop and 13 people there. would you like the address and #?

your telling me them cars cant break 14s. not even low 14s for another stupid honda owner who doesnt know ****

 

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cx or dx it had no sunroof and doesnt have a tach in his gauage cluster he has an aftermarket one. and pm if you know him or may know him.

has carbon fiber hood, no back interior and no bodykit.

 

no I dont know him but now I def say that dude doesnt know how to drive/ or his car was tuned horribly. If he was running "12.9"s sorry your all motor B16 is not going to come that close.

 

PAImporttuner
hey your not that guy we bought a blackhatchback from are you? It was an ls hatchback that a guy i know bough up there. It was leakign gas from the gas tank and axles were busted and we drove it 3 hours home like that. Pimp. B16a are weak. j/k guys since half you guys own b16a crxs or hatches. Turbo owns all but turbo vtec owns me.

Josh

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ssl2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
None of those cars are ****. Fastest car out of that bunch is going to be lucky to break into the 14s. Is your car stripped out? Did you have a passenger? Did they? All from a dead stop or were some of them from a roll?
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what are your times with your heaps

1988 CRX DX: D16z6, Si Trans, T-25 HMT kit @ 10psi, FMPipe, TurboEdit 2.0
1990 CRX Si: ls/vtec

your 88 @ 10psi low 13s and 90 should be mid 13s on street tires if not you cant drive or tune for ****.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deftones0817 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">PAImporttuner
hey your not that guy we bought a blackhatchback from are you? It was an ls hatchback that a guy i know bough up there. It was leakign gas from the gas tank and axles were busted and we drove it 3 hours home like that. Pimp. B16a are weak. j/k guys since half you guys own b16a crxs or hatches. Turbo owns all but turbo vtec owns me.

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never owned a black honda til 3 days ago. never sold my cars to anyone on HT. and i decided to turbo my b16 vs all motor. i want to own/rape/dance around people. bvtec turbo is the way to go

but everyone confuses me from him and this girl on hot or not. enjoy fellas http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=GZNSNZ

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WR91EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no I dont know him but now I def say that dude doesnt know how to drive/ or his car was tuned horribly. If he was running "12.9"s sorry your all motor B16 is not going to come that close.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i understand what your saying but if you ever want to meet up and race and chill and you race all 3 at the same time me, you and him. it wouldnt be believeable it really isnt but i'm being serious and i wouldnt lie about this. i was hesistant to post this in the first place because people on H-T think they know it all. I've never made a stupid bs post on here for yeaaaaars. why start now.

 

why would I want to race you. My B18 non vtec isnt as fast as a B16 or B18 Turbo I already know that. I also know that an all motor B16 isnt going to come that close to a properly tuned B18 Turbo I never said you didnt come close or whatever but its nothing to brag about it just makes him look bad not you.

 

update 12.9 was on 13" Lenso. so 15" slipstreams on azenis would be like a .4-.5sec loss? mind you a blink of an eye is like .5sec

i estimate me runing 13s and anyone who thinks my 90 crx dx cant do high 13s with b16 adv timing, walbro 190lph,fpr, jdm 4-1,thermal catback, intake.. needs to do some research.

 

It's too hard to say one engine or car is better than the other, blah blah blah because there are too many factors. Weight, skill, tires, horsepower, does the driver know his engine's powerband? If you know when to shift a B16 and stay in the powerband with it's lightweight (for a B) in a light car I can see it pulling on those other cars, even the turbo cars if they're not set up right. All turbo's are not the same, just because a car is turbo'd doesn't necessarily mean it's going to give the same results as say a Revhard kit or Drag kit. He could have been detonating and/or not running an intercooler, a turbo that's too small for the motor, etc.

 

your just blatantly picking a fight with the turbo guys here man.

and a b16 with your mods will run around 14 flat on street tires with good 60 foots, have you ever ran it down the 1/4 mile?

all you did is list a bunch of cars, but they could not have been setup very well.

that being said, i took down an rx-8 and an s2000 in my b16 crx dx, from a dig at a red light, then again from a roll on both cars.

b16 efs are fun, but i dont think a properly setup sohc turbo should be beat by a b16ef stock.

sorry, your pipe dreaming until you actually boost that thing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doublethink &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your just blatantly picking a fight with the turbo guys here man.

and a b16 with your mods will run around 14 flat on street tires with good 60 foots, have you ever ran it down the 1/4 mile?

all you did is list a bunch of cars, but they could not have been setup very well.

that being said, i took down an rx-8 and an s2000 in my b16 crx dx, from a dig at a red light, then again from a roll on both cars.

b16 efs are fun, but i dont think a properly setup sohc turbo should be beat by a b16ef stock.

sorry, your pipe dreaming until you actually boost that thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reelizmpro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's too hard to say one engine or car is better than the other, blah blah blah because there are too many factors. Weight, skill, tires, horsepower, does the driver know his engine's powerband? If you know when to shift a B16 and stay in the powerband with it's lightweight (for a B) in a light car I can see it pulling on those other cars, even the turbo cars if they're not set up right. All turbo's are not the same, just because a car is turbo'd doesn't necessarily mean it's going to give the same results as say a Revhard kit or Drag kit. He could have been detonating and/or not running an intercooler, a turbo that's too small for the motor, etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is the comments that make sense and are true i didnt know if they were tuned or not but none of the owners said there cars ran like ****. but an LS motor with a turbo has to run and put down more WHP just bolting it in untuned. I'm going the turbo route on my b16 even though i'm an allmotor guy i dont think i'll be satisfied with a fully built n/a b16

**edit
it's 52* out wooohoo

 

damn dood..if your **** runs like that...i needa get a new fuel pump and FPR :S, maybe I can get into the 8's with this thing....lightening speed....

1990 Civic STD stripped
JDM B16A , SRI, ITR CAMS, GOOD UNDENTED 4-1 HEADER, 2.25 INCH customer bent exhaust

 

your car is heavier than my crx and untuned and a shitty driver possibly stop being a moron.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you are saying you beat all those cars with your setup?

Your stock B16 with just a fuel pump and I/H/E beat turbo cars that probably pushing somehwere in the 180hp range? And these people knew how to drive???</TD></TR></TABLE>

I see a possible chance in him beating these cars, but its unlikely. These cars would have to have really haggard setups to get beat by a bolt on b16 wtih 140whp. The 5th gen hatch with z6 @ 6-7 psi is probably making close to 160whp. I dont see you beating that car. Also the 5th gen 4dr LS-T is probably making about 180whp, and you MIGHT of beat this car, if it is still a pig compared to your crx. You need to stop paying visits to Tyrone. Youre not in the 13's with your bolt on b16. Put down the pipe and get your *** to the track and get a reality check.


your b16 crx isnt fast guy.

Its "quick"