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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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Default Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts

I know they are SUPPOSED to help reduce wheel hop, but they seem to not do dick for it in my case except cause more vibration. I can live with the vibrations if they actually were helping with wheel hop. I was thinking of just getting traction bars and yanking the mounts. Anyone else have any thoughts on this idea? I never ran the current setup mine the mount inserts, but I can say that right now wheel hop is insane in first and second gears.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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They do HELP reduce wheel hop, on a car with a decent suspension suspension. There is alot of other things that neen to be right in order for the inserts to do there thing.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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if u get inserts, get prothane and not energy. The prothane ones are a shitload stiffer
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpoolnG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u get inserts, get prothane and not energy. The prothane ones are a shitload stiffer </TD></TR></TABLE>

I already have the energy suspension inserts in the car. I was just trying to get some advice on the route I was thinking of taking as far as traction bars. Right now, it seems these mounts don't do dick.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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It can't hurt to try the bars. Let us know what you decide and how it works.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Maybe it the tires.What tires you using?
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92WhiteHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe it the tires.What tires you using?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Falken Azenis. Mounted on 14" rims. 92 GSR rims to be exact.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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I have the prothane for the Integra in my EBP 00 Si and they did help for a while. Sometimes the vivbration would be worse than other times mostly on cold days alot of vibration was present.

I didnt get a chance to get the traction bars before the motor blew but they did help out somewhat on completely smooth surfaces. The longer I had them the less they seemed to work( tired suspension?).

I personally want to get some information on the Hasport mounts that convert the new round style mount to the old style 92-95 mounts I heard these are expensive but cant find any prices.( Im still searching the board )
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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With my experience with Azenis (1992 hatch and B18C1)... there was slight to moderate wheelhop sometimes when the tire pressure was high but none when the pressure was low. The car didn't have inserts but it could be tire pressure.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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When did u install the inserts and how many miles do you have on them? I believe there is a break in period for most motor mount inserts.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 02:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MONTCO Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When did u install the inserts and how many miles do you have on them? I believe there is a break in period for most motor mount inserts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A break in for motor mounts? I honestly don't think so.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 02:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaBullSQ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With my experience with Azenis (1992 hatch and B18C1)... there was slight to moderate wheelhop sometimes when the tire pressure was high but none when the pressure was low. The car didn't have inserts but it could be tire pressure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I tried high and low pressure. Both on and off the track. It seems pretty bad no matter what terrain I am on. First and second gear are pretty bad. First is so bad that even if I roll on it, its kinda useless. I'm just looking to improve traction and lower the times.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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This might sound funny, but I think I found PART of the problem.

I went out to the local dragstrip here like I do just about every Wednesday night. I went up to the line, and proceeded to do a small burnout to clean the tires like I normally do. Burnout for like 2 seconds, then SNAP! Passenger side axle said cya! I didn't think much of it, pushed the car off the track and came home to get my tools and a spare "reman" axle to swap in. I noticed the axle that broke was splined all the way back the shaft on the end that went into the tranny, then replacement I had was not. It then occured to me that I had the wrong axle in there. The axle that was in use was for an intermediate shaft, or drivers side. At first, I just figured oh well. But once I got back out on the track I realized what a difference it made. The car wouldn't "hop" anymore when burning out, was smooth as can be. I had a lot less wheel hop off the line, but still ran into some hop about 1/2 way through second gear. Letting off in 1st and 2nd to control wheelspin, I still managed a 14.1 @ 101.9mph. The wheelhop was much improved by running the "correct" axle it seems. Strange, but I thought I would share.
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