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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Default GSR Front conversion - Is it worth it?

So I've just done the rear conversion to disc on my 94 EX (haven't had a chance to drive it yet). My question is, I know the GSR calipers are, from what I've found searching the forums, "slightly" larger than my stock front calipers. And from what I've gathered, I can bolt those calipers right on without a knuckle change since my 94 EX has the same size rotors as 94-01 Integras. My question for you guys that have done it already is....Since I already have the rear converted, do you think it's even worth the trouble to convert the front to GSR specs if the calipers are only "slightly" bigger than my current calipers?

Just want some opinions.

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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bump..ive been wondering the same thing myself, although i didnt not know that the gsr front discs were the same as the ex front discs. woohoo
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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ex as well as tegs have 10.25 rotors does ur ex have abs? if it does it might be the same size im using 93 civic ex brakes on 95 gsr 4 dr.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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No ABS.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:12 AM
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yeah my EX with abs has 10.3" rotors
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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same disc, bigger pistons for the calipers.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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I can tell the difference with my INTEGRA front brakes - I upgraded from ex/si calipers.
I would definately not run the INTEGRA calipers without at least a 15/16" master cylinder. (I have a 1")
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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How much bigger is the piston on the Integra caliper than the EX caliper?
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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dont know off hand, but you can def FEEL the diff. if no one links pix, go to autozone and compare.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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i have a 96 hatch and i took the whole fromt sprindles from a gsr and put the rear disk on and changing the front made such a big difference then just the rear disk i didn't change my master cylinder or my porportioning(sp) valve...haven't had any problems yet
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reef188@aol.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 96 hatch and i took the whole fromt sprindles from a gsr and put the rear disk on and changing the front made such a big difference then just the rear disk i didn't change my master cylinder or my porportioning(sp) valve...haven't had any problems yet</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah but did your 96 hatch have EX brakes (10.3" setup)? probably not.

so of course you are going to notice a difference going from a 9.5" setup to a 10.3" setup.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by billyhoe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ex as well as tegs have 10.25 rotors does ur ex have abs? if it does it might be the same size im using 93 civic ex brakes on 95 gsr 4 dr.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Normally the 93-95 EJ1's have 9.5" front rotors if they're non-ABS and 10.25" front rotors if they're ABS-equipped.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supdawg2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No ABS.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My girlfriend's 94 EJ1 has 9.5" front rotors, non-ABS. The dealership and OEM parts stores should tell you the same thing.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reef188@aol.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 96 hatch and i took the whole fromt sprindles from a gsr and put the rear disk on and changing the front made such a big difference then just the rear disk i didn't change my master cylinder or my porportioning(sp) valve...haven't had any problems yet</TD></TR></TABLE>

As far as the prop' valve goes on the EK's you don't have to worry about changing it out. They're already the 40/40 prop' valves. I verified part #'s with the dealership in comparing to a 99/00 Si.

My buddy had no problems on his EK when he had the 5-lug setup. Now that it's on my EG, I've got some problems being that I have to change at least my MC since I've got to floor the brakes before they even begin to slow down. I need a MC with a larger piston. 15/16" or the 1" MC if I could find one. My prop' valve was OK to leave since I've got an Si with the 40/40 prop' valve.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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Bigger = Better even if it is just slightly bigger...

things that you "CAN" do that will make a big difference when swapping brakes

ITR or other camparable Integra bigger Master Cylinder... Big difference
Stainless Steel braided lines.... I felt a nice difference?
Brake fluid... If you can tell the difference you really needed a better brake fluid, usually only helps if you track the car or will be doing a lot of long hard driving

just my 2cents
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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i have gsr calipers on My EJ. stops better, but needs a bigger MC as the brake peddal drops way more.

direct bolt on for EX or SI models. brake pads are different tho.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Cool. Thx.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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what are you bumping for? You got more questions or what?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supdawg2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My question for you guys that have done it already is....Since I already have the rear converted, do you think it's even worth the trouble to convert the front to GSR specs if the calipers are only "slightly" bigger than my current calipers?

Just want some opinions.

Thanks,
J</TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe that was ansewered already?
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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Sorry dude, but I'm also interested in other people's opinion also.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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brakes are stronger as well. worth the upgrade IMO.
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