I/E/H and 1/4 mile Question
sorry guys this is my first post on a message board ever in my entire life, even though i have been into computers and hondas for a long time but my question is. I have a basic setup I/H/E. What kind of 1/4 mile times should i be running? i have never been to a track but I consider myself a pretty good driver and will be going within 2 months and want to know what to expect. Any info would be helpful. Oh yeah i have a 95 Gsr
[Modified by PhatAssAcura, 1:32 AM 1/16/2002]
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Remove the resonator box, turn the timing up and go 15.0. Done it in both of my GSRs. With I/H/E 14.3-14.5 is possible if you can drive.
especially on a 95 integra u should get high 14's with eaze.......
the hp should be there...
if u have a good combo....something good like
AEM cold air intake
DC JDM 4-1
Apexi N1 exhaust
the hp should be there...
if u have a good combo....something good like
AEM cold air intake
DC JDM 4-1
Apexi N1 exhaust
I/H/E should def. get you in the deep 14's. The key is learning how to drive on the track. Street and strip driving is totally different and should not be labeled as thesame. The track is a totally diff story when it comes to launching and preping the car to run your best. Don't be dissapointed if you dont' do so well at the track on the first time. Just keep on practicing and you will run fast.
Good Luck
EVIL
[Modified by Evil GS-R, 7:26 PM 1/15/2002]
Good Luck
EVIL
[Modified by Evil GS-R, 7:26 PM 1/15/2002]
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When the say be ready to be disappointed, they mean it. My first track experience i ran 16.4. its all about your launch. I'm not sure about Integra's but i needed to get motor mount inserts to eliminate wheel hop. not sure if you guys do to or not.
Remove the resonator box, turn the timing up and go 15.0. Done it in both of my GSRs. With I/H/E 14.3-14.5 is possible if you can drive.
1. On Slicks
2. Driving Downhill
Remove the resonator box, turn the timing up and go 15.0. Done it in both of my GSRs. With I/H/E 14.3-14.5 is possible if you can drive.
I sure as hell hope you were doing one of the following to get those times:
1. On Slicks
2. Driving Downhill
I sure as hell hope you were doing one of the following to get those times:
1. On Slicks
2. Driving Downhill
4. At 5000 feet BELOW sea level
With I/H/E you should be is super low 15's or super high 14's. So basically about 15.0 This has been proven many times at the Nebraska Motorplex.
One quick note, times DO VARY a few tenths at different tracks! I have first hand experience with this.
Oh yeah I am running on 17's with 205 40 series tires that are hella grippier than my stock setup and tokico shocks with skunk 2 coilovers. I assume that should help with launches. It helped me out alot in the street. but I dont know about the track.
[Modified by PhatAssAcura, 5:51 AM 1/16/2002]
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Oh yeah and one last question. Since my zero to 60 is supposed to be 7.0 seconds according to all kinds of different sources what might it be with my new setup?
i ran 14.700 at 95.53 gutted and consistent high 14.8s low 14.9s in the high 93s low 94s full interior with i/h/e. the 14.700 was only a 2.24 60 foot on street tires. With slicks and a good launch you can get a 2.0 60', 1 tenth in the 60 is 2 tenths in the 1/4. There is your 14.3 Or you could be like evil and run 14.3s stock
its all about the "driver."
my car isn't a gsr, but a couple of guys i know with gsrs have that same setup(i/h/e) and they managed to pull 14.7's with street tires.
you might wanna lose the 17's as well. the bigger the wheel, the more rotating mass??try lighter wheels like the hx's or something..(panasports too
)
my car isn't a gsr, but a couple of guys i know with gsrs have that same setup(i/h/e) and they managed to pull 14.7's with street tires.
you might wanna lose the 17's as well. the bigger the wheel, the more rotating mass??try lighter wheels like the hx's or something..(panasports too
)
I live in FL. And yes I have pulled 15.1 a few times in bone stock GSRs, not on stock tires, but also on regular radials (p6000 pirellis). IT's all about learning to drive and practicing. MY final integra went 14.4@97 (good for about a 13.8 with traction). That's with AEM intake, DC 421 2.25 collect, and a greddy SP exhaust with a test pipe. You tell me, haters can be haters, but those who know me know I am no BS. Just like my old 13.0 NA Civic.
How many GSRs you know putting down good torque? Not that many, I think you shold do some research because you obviously don't know dick. Mom bought you a computer and a GSR and now you think you know what you read on the boards. You also might want to remember that a Dynojet measures 85% of actual horsepower because its' wheel horsepower not crank.
Gee look at all that torque, those are nice motors too. Type Rs. Mike K spec with Jun cams, you tell me if they're making 180 with 132 Torque (lesser compressoin than I had Because of P72 cylinder head). I bet those dyno charts are BS too?
That's the 142 one.
How many GSRs you know putting down good torque? Not that many, I think you shold do some research because you obviously don't know dick. Mom bought you a computer and a GSR and now you think you know what you read on the boards. You also might want to remember that a Dynojet measures 85% of actual horsepower because its' wheel horsepower not crank.
Dynojet does NOT measure wheel horsepower. It measures wheel torque, then does the math.
Do you KNOW how HP is derived? Do YOU know how to do the math?
HP = (torque*RPM)/(5252)
Now if that right there doesn't explain why 160 WHP and 135 torque at the wheels doesn't sound made up in a B18C1, NA or BOOSTED...ask politely and I'll try again.
I bought and built my own computer, and I bought my GS-R and bought and am building my CRX.
[Modified by Jesse H, 10:12 AM 1/17/2002]
Gee look at all that torque, those are nice motors too. Type Rs. Mike K spec with Jun cams, you tell me if they're making 180 with 132 Torque (lesser compressoin than I had Because of P72 cylinder head). I bet those dyno charts are BS too?
The only way I can think of B18C1's making 160/135 at the wheels is a boosted motor in very poor tune.
But here is your setup:
MY final integra went 14.4@97 (good for about a 13.8 with traction). That's with AEM intake, DC 421 2.25 collect, and a greddy SP exhaust with a test pipe
The 160 hp with your mods is beleivable. The ET's aren't...and trying to say it's your torque that's making you fast, that's even less beleivable.
And EVEN IF all this fairy tale BS were true for your car...the vaaast majority of GS-R's with I/H/E are NOT going into the low 14's, "13's with traction" no matter how good of a driver you are.
[Modified by Jesse H, 10:23 AM 1/17/2002]
I'm not calling bs or anything, but those look like two different tegs in that pic you put up (naturalvx). The wheels are different. Not only that, but that exhaust on that teg is a Greddy PE, not an SP (like you stated in your mods).
Those civics look different as well, unless you repainted it, thew on a body kit, changed the wheels, etc. etc. I'm not sure what your point was in posting those pics, but those appear to be 4 different cars. Anyway, like i said, I'm not calling bs because I don't know what was your point in posting those pics (maybe you just wanted to remind us what tegs/civics look like
) but whatever.......
Those civics look different as well, unless you repainted it, thew on a body kit, changed the wheels, etc. etc. I'm not sure what your point was in posting those pics, but those appear to be 4 different cars. Anyway, like i said, I'm not calling bs because I don't know what was your point in posting those pics (maybe you just wanted to remind us what tegs/civics look like
) but whatever.......
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