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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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I have searched about Flat Black paint jobs and everyone said that they used paint cans. I am trying to find Flat Black in quarts to buy. I went to a couple Auto Paint stores today and they said no one made Flat Black paint. I read that some people used rustoleum paint. How does that work? I am looking for a Flat Black Paint to use that will not leave a dirty film behind after I wash the car and will not rust like primer will. I was told to get normal black paint and clear coat and put Flattner in it. Is there a different way besides this?

If I use Rustoleum Paint can I put clear coat over it with flattner in it?
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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I believe you use a black base coat, then there is an additive to the clear coat that makes it dull.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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i know you can get a flat clear that makes it look flat black. look at the old dodges and plymoths in the later 60's, the used to paint their hoods a sorts flat black, i used to know the color but i forget it. just tell a paint shop your looking for something like that.



see how the stripes are a flat color.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kurinto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe you use a black base coat, then there is an additive to the clear coat that makes it dull.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes or search for matt paint like on old cars that didn't use clear coat.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Wouldn't that be a laquer? A urethane will last much longer.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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the pant that comes in quarts or more is called....
satin black enamel! it looks just like flat black, but wont come off when ya wash it and stuff.
im painting my eg that color!!!
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Yeah I was looking for a paint that will last and won't look like **** after being washed. I asked a couple paint stores in town and all of them said paint was made to shine. I asked about old cars with flat black paint like old street rods and they said that the owners buy normal black and then use a flattner to make it flat.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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trust me man its satin black enamel!
i used this before on my bros camaro!
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Please PLEASE dont ruin the paint on your car and make it flat black....
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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i used bumper paint on my carolla, its black but not that flat, check it out


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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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hot rodders use John Deere Blitz Black paint which is a flat/suede/satin finish...

House of Kolors makes a clear coat flattener. It's an additive that creates a flat clear coat (no matter what color was used as base).

Rustoleum flat black (quart, oil based). I believe a user by the name of 'speedinghatch' used it on his hatchback using a spray gun, looks very nice. i dont know how it's held up against weather/washing/etc tho.

User by the name of 'slopoke' used Krylon flat black (semi? ultra?) that came in a quart canister and was applied with a spray gun as well. again, i dont know how well it's held up against weather/washing/etc.

I used Krylon semi-flat spray paint, and it is not the greatest. some of the paint strokes can be visible (this varies). I also washed the car about 5times or so with dish-washing soap so there are some parts where the paint started coming off. I wouldn't recommend this procedure to anyone...

Let's hope 'slopoke' or 'speedinghatch' chime in with some insight.

BTW, i've been flat black since April 26, 2004... so i wasnt necessarily bitten by any sort of flat black trend bug...
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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God flat black can make any car looks like ****.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RZFD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">God flat black can make any car looks like ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>



Flat Silver:



I cant find the STi that SCC flat blacked....but IMO you cant make a car look more ******* bas *** than if you flat black it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SCC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Meanwhile, metallic flat black it is. Simmons custom mixed our metallic black, finishing it off with a clearcoat doped liberally with dulling agent. Being a rare request, the exact amount of dulling agent was in question. Our finish ended up fairly semi-gloss; not exactly the R1 finish we were looking for, but menacing nonetheless. Parked next to our rattle-can black, it's several shades blacker, and the semi-gloss replaces the declarations of cuteness with semi-disgusted questions about our paint problems. Perfect. Anyone with an automotive soul, on the other hand, understands immediately.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Aftertalking with SpeedingHatch he says his flat black rustoleum job has held up to snow,rain, and everything after 6 months it still looks the same as day one..Iam going satin black on my sol in a couple weeks. The paint can be purchased at home depot, lowes, etc.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Superhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

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dear god. i would kill for that color code. or at least to know who makes it.

so hot.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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just get that bed liner paint thing lol ..
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RZFD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">God flat black can make any car looks like ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It can also make any car look good too.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpugenEG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aftertalking with SpeedingHatch he says his flat black rustoleum job has held up to snow,rain, and everything after 6 months it still looks the same as day one..Iam going satin black on my sol in a couple weeks. The paint can be purchased at home depot, lowes, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Which paint are you talking about? The rustoleum or satin black? And I'm going to IM "speedinghatch" about how his car cleans up with rustoleum after washing it. I just don't want the nasty dry chalkboard look after I wash and dry.

And for the trendy thing, I have the engine bay painted Subaru WRX Blue, I'm in the process of completing my turbo kit and my wrecked bike so that's why it's going Flat Black. Just till the funds come because I don't want a grey half primered car that will rust when it gets wet. Plus the flat black doesn't look to bad to me and no one around my area has it. Everyone is BLING BLING here.

Thanks for the replys and keep them coming if there is a way to use Flat black without it rusting like Primer or looking like a dry Chalkboard after washing it.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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I used

Krylon Ultra Flat Black


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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kurinto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe you use a black base coat, then there is an additive to the clear coat that makes it dull.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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Ok i dont know what primer u use but primer is to prevent rust. Ok if you plan on keeping it flat black for a while i would base coat clear coat it PPG makes a flat clear.

I would not use spary paint
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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ultra flat is too chalkboard like. use semi flat....here is my kryloned crx i sold. if you dont want an aresol just use a black basecoat and dont clear it.


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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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why would you want to flat black a car? that takes away everything, i think the best part of my car is cleaning it and looking at it shine and reflect. im sorry i have no idea what paint to use so im not contribution to this topic, but i just dont think it looks good at all, i am sorry.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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I have been looking at flat black paint jobs since I first saw the Skunk2 Si. From what all the body shops told me, the best way to do it is to use a black base coat and a satin clear, or clear with a satin additive ($2000+). However going to as many classic car shows as I do, and talking with enough rat rodders, I learned the the most cost effective way ($60+) to do it is with bumper/trim paint out of a HVLP gun, and to wax it afterwards to get that shine. Looks really sexy, I will Post a DIY in the summer, looks identical to to the Skunk2 paint
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b204d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok i dont know what primer u use but primer is to prevent rust. Ok if you plan on keeping it flat black for a while i would base coat clear coat it PPG makes a flat clear.

I would not use spary paint </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was talking about using a flat black primer if there is any and using that as a paint then using clear coat mixed with Flatner. Just a thought BTW

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by saywhat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have been looking at flat black paint jobs since I first saw the Skunk2 Si. From what all the body shops told me, the best way to do it is to use a black base coat and a satin clear, or clear with a satin additive ($2000+). However going to as many classic car shows as I do, and talking with enough rat rodders, I learned the the most cost effective way ($60+) to do it is with bumper/trim paint out of a HVLP gun, and to wax it afterwards to get that shine. Looks really sexy, I will Post a DIY in the summer, looks identical to to the Skunk2 paint </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wen tto the paint stores and they say to paint my car is $310 in parts. I was talking about painting the car myself, I would never spend that kind of $ and paint it flat black. I heard of people using bumper/trim before but I never knew it could come in pint etc. sizes. I'll look into that.
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