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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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hello, i need to know a few things, I have a B18B1 engine out of a acura integra ls 94 model with 110,000 miles on it and it has bent valves. I also have a B20 A5 head that is a spare from my other car which is a prelude. I am wondering if a B18B1 will go directly into a 92-95 civic hatchback, and will the b20 head go on the b18 to make it go faster or what. I just need some help on this because i am going to get a civic hb and i am going to want to do a swap right away to make it go fast. Please write in and help me out with this. I need to know everything i will need for the swap. I also have a D16A integra ls 88 whole car if that helps any.

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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Search is your friend, that swap and how to do it has been covered only 3412034170 times. To answer a few of your questions quickly, it will go in, but you'll need B-series engine and tranny mounts, different halfshafts/intermediate shafts, different shift linkage, and the right wiring modifications (which may actually amount to none, if the engine is OBDI). I'm not positive, but I think the B20 head will not work. Again, not positive. As for the '88 DA, no, it won't help.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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ok, but should i buy a civic hb that runs and save up for all the other stuff ill need then do the swap or should i buy one thats blow up or something and do the swap immediately? I am 15 now and ill be 16 in 4 months so i have to sell my prelude and buy a civic hb with that money. Than my dad is going to put our b18b1 out of the integra ls 94 i it. What I also need to know is, do i buy acura integra motor and tranny mounts and what about radiator hoses do i use? do i buy all the accessory stuff like shift linkage and all for an integra or what. And the ECU?? I really appreciate the help.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Search is your friend, that swap and how to do it has been covered only 3412034170 times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It was covered twice tonight already. If you have an LS Integra already, everything in it will bolt directly into your car, shift linkage, axles, engine/tranny mounts, etc. Seriously, on the top right hand portion of your HT screen, there's a "Search" button. Type in "B18B swap", select "archived threads," read all the threads that come up.

Since it won't come up in the search, will you have a car to drive once you sell your Prelude? Or is it even necessary? A swap CAN be done in a weekend, if you know what you're doing, but it doesn't sound like you do. Given that, if you NEED transportation, buy a running hatch, read up and learn more about how to do a swap, and then when you have some time and the right tools, sit down for a weekend/week and do it. for trying to do this at just 15, but I think you should research the process a bit more.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Dude man, i do know exactly what im talking about, but i know im no mechanic my dad is the one that has put engines in tons of cars including all of mine. An i beleive you are misteaking what i have man. I have a ENGINE only out of a 94 integra ls, all i have is the motor and thats It. I also have a B20A5 head off of a b20-engine out of a prelude. I also have a 89 preludesi 4ws im selling to get 2000 dollars to get a hatch 92-95. I also have a WHOLE 88 acura integra ls with a D16A1 but everyone says that the d16 is a bad swap and its too old. So basically i have to sell the prelude, buy a civic hb and do the swap, and transportation is not nessacary because im driving a 96 prelude right now. I ahve to sell me old red prelude and my mom wants the 96 prelude so im obligated to get a civic hatch for several reasons, including insurance costs. Thanks and please write back
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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I see a little better now. First, you need to check with someone about the B20A5 head, I'm really not sure that will work. What year prelude is it off of? Also, everyone who told you not to swap the D16 is correct, it's not worth swapping that in. That's very similar to the stock engine in an EG. For the way your swapping cars around sounds, buy a running hatch, then whenever you happen to have a good opportunity to swap everything over, like when you have all the parts, do it.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:20 AM
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That d16a1 is a 1.6 DOHC non-vtec correct?
Similar to the Dohc ZC??
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PreludeDude96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude man, i do know exactly what im talking about, but i know im no mechanic my dad is the one that has put engines in tons of cars including all of mine. An i beleive you are misteaking what i have man. I have a ENGINE only out of a 94 integra ls, all i have is the motor and thats It. I also have a B20A5 head off of a b20-engine out of a prelude. I also have a 89 preludesi 4ws im selling to get 2000 dollars to get a hatch 92-95. I also have a WHOLE 88 acura integra ls with a D16A1 but everyone says that the d16 is a bad swap and its too old. So basically i have to sell the prelude, buy a civic hb and do the swap, and transportation is not nessacary because im driving a 96 prelude right now. I ahve to sell me old red prelude and my mom wants the 96 prelude so im obligated to get a civic hatch for several reasons, including insurance costs. Thanks and please write back </TD></TR></TABLE>

The b20a5 head will not bolt correctly. If you want to do the b18b bottom with b20 head you will need a b20 head from a crv. They are two different bolt pats. Just put the b18b motor by its self it will still pull hard, then save your money and put a gsr head on it to make ls/vtec. not a hard process. Just do some research google is your best friend/ along with HT search button.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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To clarify what that guy said, since you just have a B18B shortblock, you need to get one of the following:
-B18B head
-B20B head FROM A CRV, NOT a prelude
-B18C1 head from a GSR/B16A head from a later model Civic Si (which I believe also works for LS/VTEC, correct?) although either of those will require some additional finagling with wiring and such.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Actually Using a b16 head would be better not a gs-r head, even though gs-r would do the same, B16 heads have higher flow. etc, so called same casting as the R's. It also takes a whole lot more then just slapping a vtec head on a non vtec bottom end, you need to literally swap out all fluid delivery components, oil pump etc, dowel pin replacement, all sorts of other goodies if you want to pump out 9,000 Rpms of goodness.

But after you swap this motor in your hatch you won't be sorry, its fun and exciting, and something you can build off of, the b18b is a very smart choice of engine to pick. If you have the money or the time and money to save up i would recommend a Xsi Tranny, which has optional Honda LSD and a bit cheaper then the type R Tranny, or the b16a2 tranny non LSD but still nice for drag.

Good luck to ya this site will help you alot along the way, atleast we're not seeing kids your age doing the 2 fast 2 furious **** again.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Just get a B18B1 head off eBay for $50. You could get a JDM B20 head if you looked around which is a little better....but it's really just a waste unless you happen on one.

B18B1 in a hatch, easy as hell swap....you won't have any problems. It really has been covered a billion times though, and for the first time in MY life, I'm going to suggest a search

- Nathan
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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hey bro this nonvtec forum owns.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To clarify what that guy said, since you just have a B18B shortblock, you need to get one of the following:
-B18B head
-B20B head FROM A CRV, NOT a prelude
-B18C1 head from a GSR/B16A head from a later model Civic Si (which I believe also works for LS/VTEC, correct?) although either of those will require some additional finagling with wiring and such.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He has the a full b18b engine.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by conFusedEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually Using a b16 head would be better not a gs-r head, even though gs-r would do the same, B16 heads have higher flow. etc, so called same casting as the R's. It also takes a whole lot more then just slapping a vtec head on a non vtec bottom end, you need to literally swap out all fluid delivery components, oil pump etc, dowel pin replacement, all sorts of other goodies if you want to pump out 9,000 Rpms of goodness.

But after you swap this motor in your hatch you won't be sorry, its fun and exciting, and something you can build off of, the b18b is a very smart choice of engine to pick. If you have the money or the time and money to save up i would recommend a Xsi Tranny, which has optional Honda LSD and a bit cheaper then the type R Tranny, or the b16a2 tranny non LSD but still nice for drag.

Good luck to ya this site will help you alot along the way, atleast we're not seeing kids your age doing the 2 fast 2 furious **** again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes I know this I was just giving the kid some where to start.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one8toh8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He has the a full b18b engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know he said that at first, but the more he talks the more I think he has just a shortblock. If he had a longblack, why would he be trying to swap heads?
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I know he said that at first, but the more he talks the more I think he has just a shortblock. If he had a longblack, why would he be trying to swap heads?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He said he wanted to swap heads to make more power, Try reading slower it helps.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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I do see that in his first post now, but thanks for being a dick about it
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do see that in his first post now, but thanks for being a dick about it </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry for being a dick just tired of people in general. MY BAD
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Yes I have a whole B18B1 DOHC 1.8 out of a 94 integra ls. The head on the b18b1 has bent valves, but the whole engine only has 109,000. I can have the head done at a machine shop so thats no problem. I have a B20A5 head off of a 89 prelude si and I just thought maybe it would go on the b18 since it is a brand spankin new head, but everyone says it wont go on so ill just sell it on ebay for some extra cash. The 88 integra behind the my dads shop has a D16A1 which is a DOHC 1.6. I know that is no help because you guys also said that cars no use for this project. How much should i spend for a 92-95 hatchback civic (EG)?? I am going to get 1800-2000 dollars for my old 89 prelude si 4ws im selling, and my parents will give me 200-450 to help me get a nicer one. I really appreciate you guys help alot. I am 15 and i hate the 2 fast and 2 furious ****, im into cooler stuff. THANKS
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PreludeDude96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I am 15 and i hate the 2 fast and 2 furious ****, im into cooler stuff. THANKS </TD></TR></TABLE>
That is awesome. Thanks for the new Sig.

Eg prices can vary alot, depending on condition. I bought my shell for $300.
But could have easily paid over $1000 b/c it was clean (for the most part).

Complete or not... ballpark I would say: $1500-4000 depending on condition.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one8toh8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry for being a dick just tired of people in general. MY BAD </TD></TR></TABLE>

Apology accepted my man. HT certainly can be an aggravating place. Have a on me
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