I know some of you saw my post in the Expo thread, but I can't wait for warm weather so I can get these bad boys out of the garage!!

My first set of Toyo RA1s!!




More Advanced drivers need to call Mike (migs) & get a helluva deal on some Toyos!! Here's his great pricing - http://www.itrca.com/events/ex...r.php

 

Droool. Be sure to heat cycle those bad boys before you track them. I'll keep asking around to see if there's a place in town that will shave them for you.

 

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Think I'll be fine on almost full tread on them? I was thinking of driving them out from Chicago for the heat cycle and some surface wear.

 

I wish I had you guy's problems!

Stephen - who really should order a set of RA1s for Exp0...

 

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I don't want to sound like an advertisement but, just so you know, you are not going to be able to get a better price for 205-50-15 RA-1's <u>any</u>where.

If you want long-live'd, consistently performing R compounds that will work in dry and wet, RA-1 is what you want, and you're not going to find a better price anywhere...so you might as well call him.

 

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I don't want to start a fight, but the RA-1 aren't like other R comps.

You don't really <u>have</u> to shave them or classic-heat cycle them if you're just using them for normal track days. Shaving them will also shorten their life expectancy and usability in wet weather.

They need to be used some, heat cycled if you will, before you go all out on the track at speed. However, unlike Hoosiers and Kumhos, all you really need to do is take them out on the Interstate for an hour.

Honestly, what I do with new RA-1 is just drive to the track with them, and that's enough of a heat cycle.

Perhaps I'm just slow.

 

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Think I'll be fine on almost full tread on them? I was thinking of driving them out from Chicago for the heat cycle and some surface wear.

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Frisby Tire (in Gurnee, Grand Ave. just east of I-94) can shave them while you watch.

I have heard they'll have a longer useful life if you shave them, so I did. Less tread squirm and stuff. Anyhow, they feel great.

I drove on mine for about a week including a drive to a track to heat-cycle them. Worked well for me, they're still sticky and not wearing quick. I guess they're not too sensitive to it.

-Chris

 

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So, what you're saying is, I shouldn't take life expectancy advice from the guy that sells me the tires? I haven't used Toyo's both ways, and haven't even worn through my first set, so all I have is heresay.

But yeah, the Toyo RA1's seem to be pretty forgiving.

-Chris

 

fwiw - I've decided to run mine without shaving. I figure it will be a good deal even if it rains

Anyway - they are my first R compounds, so I'll see how it goes & learn from there.

 

&lt;--Decided to buy set from Migs with his next paycheck

 

My understanding of heat cycling is that it consists of at least 15 minutes of highway speeds, followed by a couple of days of rest, preferably OFF THE CAR.

Read more here.

I have not shaved my RA-1's before using.

I bought mine from Frisby - great service for those in the Chicago area - but not as good a price as the special deal that migs is offering for the Expo. migs for good prices, for supporting the ITR Expo.

 

48 hours off the car is really important for Victoracers, but does not seem to matter w/the Toyos.

The link goes to Tire Rack, but they don't know much about Toyos.

 

Nice. Congrats

 

So I should use these tires for one day of driving then let them sit for two off the caR?

I want to get the most use out of them, with the best feel.

 

OK, nobody's listening so I'm not talking about it anymore.

 

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lol!

 

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We appreciate your input, George. Rob's just being newb-ish with his first set of R compounds. Maybe he should search.....

 

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oh snaps...callin out the search **** himself

&lt;---who is feeling sucked in by the overwhelming want/need to buy the R-comps

 

Jon, for your first HPDE you should track the same tires you drive daily. You'll be learning so much about caR dynamics your first time out that you wont need R comps to put a cheese on your face

 

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I just questioned that myself actually! Being very inexperienced what tires would you guys recommend me starting on. Purchasing teh R-comps would probably be foolish for me, but at the same time i would like something better then the Kumhos i have on right now! In all the reading i have done, and from what i can gather if i had to make the choice myself i would either get Azenis or the ES100's. Would anyone advise me to either stay away from, or purchase one or the other?

 

That's whole 'nother topic, Jon. If your tires are beat then get new ones. As you know though, there is little or no snow fun to be had with the Azenis

When you come up to NYC i'll bring you up to Phil he'll hook you up.

 

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They will need replaced come Exp0......so what i will replace them with i am not sure yet! Opie, plans are in the making for mah B-day s0 i'll keep j00 updated

 

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I want to get the most use out of them, with the best feel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've done that with all my track tires (except once or twice when I paid extra for Tire Rack to heat cycle them for me). George says that it is not necessary with the Toyos like it is for other track tires. I don't know anything about why he says so (since I've never NOT heat cycled mine, since it's so easy). I'm sure heat cycling them like this won't hurt, and may help - but if it's inconvenient for you to do so, I'm sure it won't be THAT big a deal if you don't, either.

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I agree with Opie - for your first track event, you should use the same tires you drive daily.

If you're considering replacing your street tires, this post contains a summary of the pluses and minuses of various street tires for the ITR. Basically, the Azenis RT-215 will perform a lot better on dry pavement; ES100 will last a lot longer, will perform better on wet pavement, come in the stock size, and don't need wider rims to maximize their capabilities. So which one is better for your needs may depend on how much you plan to track your car, how much rain you get in your area, whether you don't mind paying for new sets of tires a lot more frequently, etc. The choice between these two (as well as the other tires mentioned in that post) is mostly a matter of performance vs value, with a few other factors to consider as well. Take your pick - they're both good tires and you can't go wrong either way.

 

Thanks Ken....

 

RA-1s don't really excel until you get 2-3 track days on them.

When you first get them on - they will feel greasy and slow. They will not knock your socks off until about 1/2 the tread is gone.