Camber is a b*tch...
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Dude...i just called our local tire and alignment place...the guy said that I should get a camber kit for even a small drop of 1.5 - 1.8. Is this true?? I would rather not, since I am very poor. Should i just ignore him, have some small amount of camber, and get the rest aligned? I have nooooo clue. He quoted me 550 bucks for the whole job and I can't afford that. Could you guys give me you opinions? Thanks in advance!
i have eibach sportlines and koni shocks.. after i installed them my camber was kind of off.. the guy at the tire/alignment shop told me that as long as my toe angles are in check that i shouldnt see too much wear on my tires... its been about 10K since i got my aligment the inner edges of my tires look ok..
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Well, I just came to a revelation...I have adjustable springs. I can put them close to stock height until I have enough money for the correct parts (camber kit, etc.) Will putting it close to stock height fix the alignment for a while?
the stock height thing should probably work after you get it aligned again....but not sure, oh yea, 550 bucks, jesus christ, that dude was trying to rape you.......a camber kit for the front is usually around 140(ingalls), put it in yourself cause it shouldn't take that long(took me like an hour and a half to do the front and the back)
, for the back all you need is a washer in beetween each uppercontrol arm stud bolt(80 cents at the most), and an alignment ususally runs you around 40 dollars, if your car is only dropped 1-1/2 inches, i wouldn't even worry aboout it, mines dropped 2-3/4 inches so i had to do it.........you shouldn't have to spend more than 200 bucks to get that **** done............
, for the back all you need is a washer in beetween each uppercontrol arm stud bolt(80 cents at the most), and an alignment ususally runs you around 40 dollars, if your car is only dropped 1-1/2 inches, i wouldn't even worry aboout it, mines dropped 2-3/4 inches so i had to do it.........you shouldn't have to spend more than 200 bucks to get that **** done............
dude when i had my 99gs i had it slammed at least 3inches all the time and never had any problems . . . i could see that they were cambering and they never were down unevenly or alot at that . . . . . integras aint bad, ,, civics wear terribly though. . . youll be fine with a little drop like that , trust me .
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well it should have less negative camber if its not dropped a lot.. but as long as your toe angles are in spec you shouldnt experience all that much wear.. i dont have much increased wear on the inside of my tires.. on my last set they wore down pretty evenly
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So let me clarify this...
If i can't get this done soon, I should put it a little higher and I will not wreck my tires driving on it for a week, right?
If i can't get this done soon, I should put it a little higher and I will not wreck my tires driving on it for a week, right?
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integras aint bad, ,, civics wear terribly though. . .
that's silly. they have very similar suspensions.
that's silly. they have very similar suspensions.
I had a similar experience. I only have H&R O.E. Sports on my car (.75" - 1" drop) and a shop tried to tell me I would need a camber kit. Well, just like with doctors, I decided to get a second opinion, this time from a shop where they actually know what they're talking about. They told me there was absolutely no need for a camber kit. As others have already said, it's the toe settings that will really eat up the tires.
My advice: set your springs at the height you want them and let them settle for a week or two. Then get your alignment done. Drive it for a month or so, keep an eye on the tires, and if you start to suspect anything, go back and have the alignment checked again. If things are still out of whack at that point, then maybe you should go for the camber kit.
My advice: set your springs at the height you want them and let them settle for a week or two. Then get your alignment done. Drive it for a month or so, keep an eye on the tires, and if you start to suspect anything, go back and have the alignment checked again. If things are still out of whack at that point, then maybe you should go for the camber kit.
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Hmm...that's just about what I've been thinking. I will wait and adjust it to what I want. Then I'll go get an alignment after it's all settled. So it does take a while for it to mess up the tires though, right?
In my case, when all was said and done, I think it took between 10,000 and 15,000 miles for the stock Michelins to really start looking bad on the insides. At the time, it didn't occur to me to have the alignment rechecked after the springs had some time to settle.
But now I have my Bridgestone RE730s, so I guess it was all worth it!
But now I have my Bridgestone RE730s, so I guess it was all worth it!
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Hmm...so I should definately set the springs to where I want them and get them aligned a few days later so they have time to settle?
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Okay, cool. Thank you all for your help. I'm definately new to this suspension thing. I've learned a ton in the last few weeks. I look forward to learning more...but this is a darn expensive part of cars...
Setting the toe to zero in the front will help save your tires and should keep you from getting too much wear on the inside shoulders. You'll still be putting more pressure on the inside edges of the tires, but at least they will not be scrubbing while driving straight. My Integra had -2.25 degrees of camber in the front, 1/8" toe out in the front for autox and it cut a substantial amount of tread off fairly quickly.
dude when i had my 99gs i had it slammed at least 3inches all the time and never had any problems . . . i could see that they were cambering and they never were down unevenly or alot at that . . . . . integras aint bad, ,, civics wear terribly though. . . youll be fine with a little drop like that , trust me .
I did the alignment myself a an auto-hoby shop (with the military) it was free. But your SOL. I bought a camber kit for 80 bucks and fixed the whole deal on my ride. It is best if you get that fixed before you have to get your tires replaced.
jesse h. . . . . . how do you figure the suspensions are the same . .. if you get coilovers like ground controls they will fit , but other than that they are very different . . . .look at the underside rear of a civic and an integra. . . . . then when you decide to talk knowledgebly we will talk .
integras got independant susp components in the back .
civics got one cross bar. . . .linked vs independant . . . . . 2 different stories bro. . . .
do your homework.
integras got independant susp components in the back .
civics got one cross bar. . . .linked vs independant . . . . . 2 different stories bro. . . .
do your homework.
hey whats up guys...i am new to the boards!~ i am going to be lowering my 99GSR with H&R Sports with Koni Yellows in about a week or 2. i am pretty sure i will need a camber kit (at least in the front). anyway, i have heard many people complain and many people on boards similar to this one complaining that their camber kit squeaks. it almost sounds asthough its a common occuring problem. is there anything that can be done to eliminate the squeaking sound (i read somewhere that lubing only works temporarily in eliminating the squeaks?)? any help or info is appreciated~


