cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header??

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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Has anyone had problems with the sms header hitting an EF cross-member?? I'm on a budget and don't have money to change the cross-member at this time.

My proposed set up will be:

B18C block
SMS header
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Thanks H-T members!!
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Default Re: cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header?? (EF_VTEC)

It is a 4-2-1 design (Roughly speaking), correct?
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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Default Re: cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header?? (dr_latino999)

notch the support
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Default Re: cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header?? (Karterguy13)

I believe it is a 4-2-1 design with a 2.5 inch collector.

Is it really necessary to notch the cross-member? Anyone have any pics of this?

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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Default Re: cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header?? (EF_VTEC)

Yes, if you plan to use the stock crossmember, you will have to notch a big chunk of it out. It also depends on how much clearance the header will need, as some headers have different designs than others.

Here is a pic I found from searching of a stock crossmember notched:
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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wow...that thing looks mangled. not too pretty if ya ask me. anyone else???
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Thats about how all the ones I have seen look
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Just bang the metal lip with a big hammer..
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 04:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF_VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow...that thing looks mangled. not too pretty if ya ask me. anyone else???</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's pretty much your only choice if you want to keep the stock crossmember. The cheapest crossmember out there is the place-racing, which should allow clearance for whatever header you are thinking about getting.

Other than that, your pretty much limited by the amount of money you want to spend.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Default Re: cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header?? (EF_VTEC)

Buy a traction kit, L con is the way to go. I installed a 98 type r header with a b16 swap in my buddy's 91 hatch and we had to cut the crossmember to crap. Buy a traction kit. It's lighter, stronger, has great clearance, eliminates wheel hop, and is cosmeticly pleasing. we actually beand the first crossmember we tried to modify and had to use on i had laying around. L con traction kits are the way to go.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Default Re: cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header?? (brokeyouoff)

On a 91 civic do traction bars make a diff? I don't get any wheel hop now.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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anyone have a site for L con???

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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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Default Re: cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header?? (EF_VTEC)

Heres what a notched crossmember is supposed to look like, not that mangled garbage...





Mine
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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That looks good
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Default Re: cross-member clearance question?? sms-profab header?? (Karterguy13)

nice work!!

anyone modify a cross-member with a sms (or similar type) header?
pics anyone?

Big-ups to HT member for all the great input!!
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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how much was the welding?
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daidilus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much was the welding? </TD></TR></TABLE>

probably about $2 in gas and $0.50 in wire. Plus a little bit of wear on a grinding wheel.

around $3
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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oh yeah... The header was a large 4-1 and its a b18c in crx with DIY mounts.. so it should clear 95% of headers.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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i need your help!!
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