I've got a ******* pristeen CRX that is just begging for some kind of swap. I've been doing a lot of reading on swapping the K series, but it seems like everything is very preliminary right now, with the only people that even have K swapped rexes being the major fabricators... And even then the engine sticks out 6 inches above the hood.

Do you guys think waiting for the K swap kits to get ironed out to see if 'they' manage to get the engine sitting lower, etc... Or should I just stick with a good ol' reliable B series swap?

My main concern with going with the K's is that if it requires a special hood to make up for the height of the engine, that will pretty much scream "STEAL ME!!!", or the added engine weight will make the car very nose-heavy and not so much fun to drive anywhere but in a straight line.

...But you can't really argue with the dyno numbers.

 

if you put a K series in your crx, daily driving is no option. B series daily driving is an option. if you have the loot then yes a K swap def. is worth it ask pacman

 

"pristeen CRX" tells me that you shouldn't do a K.
The hood will be required so say good-bye to the stock looks.

 

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My main concern would be the 10,000 price tag on a project like that.

And where are you hearing about the k series weight ? I am hearing the opposite, that its not that heavy.

Oh and the hood should be your last concern, yes you will need to cut it and yes the hood will stick out, but there is nothing a little fiberglass could not take care off. You could also get a cowl Induction hood.

Also the good mount kits that will come out for this swap will have the engine sitting up that high, there is no way around this unless you want a bad axle angle.

I see that your in Illinois and your pretty close by me actually, I will be doing an h22 in a crx soon for a customer if you were interested in seeing something different.

 

Weight isn't a problem, honda was able to keep the k20 just as light as a b18c, and thats with an extra cog in the gearbox. I don't like the hood issue and the oil pan clearance issue. For a daily i'd say b-series.

 

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Oh and the hood should be your last concern, yes you will need to cut it and yes the hood will stick out, but there is nothing a little fiberglass could not take care off. You could also get a cowl Induction hood.
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actually if you use a carbon zc style hood and a k20 vs a k24 the hasport mounts should allow you to clear the hood

 

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How would you know, since the hasport mounts are not even out yet for the public ? And I'm not gonna pick an engine just because a hood will fit over it. If anything I could buy a cowl hood and make it clear.

 

At this point in time, I would say no.

 

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because hasport already did the swap

 

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Have you talked to Brian from hasport ? Just because hasport has done this swap does not mean those mounts will be released to the public. Yes I know there making this kit for the crx but who says there gonna be the same design ? Hasport could of redesign or they could still be designing the final mounts.

 

The pix show the k20 in the bay with the cf sir hood clearing the eng...

BUT... Hasport said that a pulley wasent on the engine at the time and there may be production of a smaller pulley, or a slightly different design of this pulley. They hope that they can keep the function of this pulley as good as stock. If not, they will just keep it as is.

This is all what I heard, and never talked to Brian about it. I did however see all the pictures and understand there problems.
Ryan

 

Autolink (Dr Charles) already did the swap too.

 

Just thinking about the wiring is giving me a headache..

 

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BUT... Hasport said that a pulley wasent on the engine at the time and there may be production of a smaller pulley, or a slightly different design of this pulley. They hope that they can keep the function of this pulley as good as stock. If not, they will just keep it as is.
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Yeah but that very statement proves that there still trying things out, trust me if they wake up one morning with a new idea that would mean they would have to redesign a mount or something, they will do it. Basically nothing is set in stone until the first mounts are released. Even then, they still can redesign the mounts for some reason.

 

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****, for $10k I'd rather buy a new car even though I love my car to death.

 

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or the added engine weight will make the car very nose-heavy and not so much fun to drive anywhere but in a straight line.

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Wrong the K is lighter then B's.

 

I would take a k over a b anyday

 

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not me.... b series please

 

I was under the impression the K series were heavier, learn something new every day I suppose.

90blackcrx, assuming I buy all my own parts, what do you generally charge to do a swap? (Just ballpark, nothing I'd hold you to.)

Why wouldn't a K be daily drivable? Wouldn't a new K engine be just as reliable every day as a B series would? Or is it not daily drivable because of the change in handling characteristics?

 

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bah, for the power to weight ratio i doubt you will be able to find a similar new car in the same price range, i would even doubt you will be able to find the same numbers at twice the budget.
stan

 

the daily comment was because of how low the oil pan hangs down. and if you want something different than a b series and do not want to spend 10k, go for the h22, i heard it the handling on it wasnt too bad, but i could only imagine tryin to turn the wheel while stopped.

 

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90blackcrx, assuming I buy all my own parts, what do you generally charge to do a swap? (Just ballpark, nothing I'd hold you to.)

Why wouldn't a K be daily drivable? Wouldn't a new K engine be just as reliable every day as a B series would? Or is it not daily drivable because of the change in handling characteristics?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Roughly $500, but with a k series or h series swap into a crx the price has to go up because of the fabrication work it takes. You could go to my website for more prices and pics of the work I have done. http://www.idle-gods.com. You could also here from some of my customers in this thread. Anyways IM or email me if you has any more questions.

https://honda-tech.com/zero...ge=21

Ok getting back on topic.
As far as the k being a daily driver, if the swap is done right it can be. The handling characteristics will not change that much since the engine is not that heavy. I think a lot of people might not think its good to daily drive it because of the oil pan clearance, but from the pics I have seen, if done right with the axles lining up straight and all, you actually have good ground clearance.

If you were thinking about daily driving it, the only thing to worry about is keeping the wheels planted on the ground.

 

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see but what about for the people who lower there cars and dont have adjustable suspension if axle lining is straight from swap which is perfect then when you lower car a bit not slammed for better handling you may run into trouble. i think 8k 12k omni race coilovers would be good with k20swap into rex to keep it firm.

i think cow hoods are nice and cool.. and functional

 

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see but what about for the people who lower there cars and dont have adjustable suspension if axle lining is straight from swap which is perfect then when you lower car a bit not slammed for better handling you may run into trouble. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry but I think you need to reword that cause you confused me. Are you saying what happens to the axle alignment when you lower the car or what happens to the oil pan clearance ?

If your talking about the oil pan clearance, well if your gonna drag the car there is really no sense to lower it, if your gonna road race the car, then get some stiff springs and lower it a tad. Or if your just gonna lower it for looks, I would suggest some really good springs and shocks. Either way your gonna have to make some sacrifices, but I think every time you get in the car and drive it and feel the power you probably won't mind sacrificing a few things.

 

sorry i meant oil pan clearance. right now my b16 is good and doesnt scrape at all but my 4-1 does atleast 1 every 2 days. it would be used for roadracing/autox.

the reason why i like the kseries new/technology and type-s 200 or 220 k20a2 hp all motor stock right out of the box with more power to unleash. i'll prolly cop out from going with this because of the wiring woes. if i do 42-45 offset 16s to add height a tad bit and omniman's most stiffest setup