Best brake pad for my appl..? please help
I am planning to upgrade my brakes on my '00 Si shortly, because, as we all know, the stockers suck.
I was planning on going with Powerslot slotted rotors up front along with new pads (front or all around).
For my purposes (daily driver w/ light auto-x use) I am looking for a pad with more bite but not something noisy or that makes the brakes overly touchy. I was considering either the AEM's or Hawk Blues (is this the "street" model?), but would like some help deciding between the two, and how they compare in price.
Also-- i figure for what i am going for right now, just upgrading the front pads should suit me fine, correct? I still have the stock pads on the back right now but they only have 25k miles and 2 auto-x's on them.
Any help you could offer would be really appreciated. Thanks.
[Modified by tampaSi, 1:46 AM 1/14/2002]
I was planning on going with Powerslot slotted rotors up front along with new pads (front or all around).
For my purposes (daily driver w/ light auto-x use) I am looking for a pad with more bite but not something noisy or that makes the brakes overly touchy. I was considering either the AEM's or Hawk Blues (is this the "street" model?), but would like some help deciding between the two, and how they compare in price.
Also-- i figure for what i am going for right now, just upgrading the front pads should suit me fine, correct? I still have the stock pads on the back right now but they only have 25k miles and 2 auto-x's on them.
Any help you could offer would be really appreciated. Thanks.
[Modified by tampaSi, 1:46 AM 1/14/2002]
I heard that Search makes a good pad!
Sersiously, for your apps. your gonna want to go with Hawk HPS, Porterfield R4S, and Axxis Ultimate from Carbotech. Also you should swap to some Castrol LMA from auto zone or Pep Boys. I run the ate but thats overkill for street only.
Sersiously, for your apps. your gonna want to go with Hawk HPS, Porterfield R4S, and Axxis Ultimate from Carbotech. Also you should swap to some Castrol LMA from auto zone or Pep Boys. I run the ate but thats overkill for street only.
i would call Carbotech and let them help you make a decision. they will get you the best product for your application whether it is a carbotech pad or not. i do not know your driving style but i used a aggressive pad on the rear at the last track day and was able to use trailbraking really well to rotate my heavy *** car around a couple of turns
Where to start...
The AEM's won't be much better than your OEM Honda pads. The Hawk Blue is track ONLY for road-racing...so it is not appropriate for your street/auto-x application.
Of all the products we sell, I recommend the Axxis Ultimate for the front ($63.75), and keeping your OEM pads in the rear. 70% or so of your braking is performed by the front brakes, so for street driving it is not necessary to "upgrade" the rears.
I would stick with your OEM rotors, frankly. I could sell you slotted rotors, but the OEM rotors will be more resistant to warping and cracking.
With Best Regards,
Andie Lin
The AEM's won't be much better than your OEM Honda pads. The Hawk Blue is track ONLY for road-racing...so it is not appropriate for your street/auto-x application.
Of all the products we sell, I recommend the Axxis Ultimate for the front ($63.75), and keeping your OEM pads in the rear. 70% or so of your braking is performed by the front brakes, so for street driving it is not necessary to "upgrade" the rears.
I would stick with your OEM rotors, frankly. I could sell you slotted rotors, but the OEM rotors will be more resistant to warping and cracking.
With Best Regards,
Andie Lin
Powerslot rotors will NOT help you stop better. Don't waste your money. Are you still on the horrid OE Michelins? If you are, that's your problem.
Personally, I'd go with Carbotech. Awesome brake pad and awesome service. I'd suggest running this combo, the best tire possible, stainless steel lines, Motul 600, AND the Carbotechs.
I'll be running the Carbotech Panthers at the track.
I'll be running the Carbotech Panthers at the track.
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Given your application, Andie's advice sounds right on target. Carbotech is a great company and I have been nothing but pleased with their service, support, and product!!
If you plan on doing actual track days, you'll probably want to invest in some Panther+ front pads and Panther rears but since you're not you won't have to go that far
I'd suggest either using some high quality Valvoline fluid or the Ford Heavy Duty stuff (from the ford dealer). Keep running on the stock tires until you learn to drive better and the keep the stock brake lines for now too b/c SS lines are an added expense that won't really help in autoX/street apps.
[Modified by Xian, 7:59 PM 1/14/2002]
If you plan on doing actual track days, you'll probably want to invest in some Panther+ front pads and Panther rears but since you're not you won't have to go that far
I'd suggest either using some high quality Valvoline fluid or the Ford Heavy Duty stuff (from the ford dealer). Keep running on the stock tires until you learn to drive better and the keep the stock brake lines for now too b/c SS lines are an added expense that won't really help in autoX/street apps.[Modified by Xian, 7:59 PM 1/14/2002]
I ditched the stock Michelins a while ago-- im currently running on 205/50-15 Falken Azenis's.
Thanks for all the help everyone.
I guess i'll check out the Carbotechs since they seem to be so highly reccommended.
Stock rotors, Axxis Ultimates up front, Motul 600 fluid and perhaps stainless lines?
Like i said i dont do alot of track racing but i am thinking about getting into it some more (there is a Sebring day coming up down here
). Maybe this setup will suit me best.
Thanks for all the help everyone.
I guess i'll check out the Carbotechs since they seem to be so highly reccommended.
Stock rotors, Axxis Ultimates up front, Motul 600 fluid and perhaps stainless lines?
Like i said i dont do alot of track racing but i am thinking about getting into it some more (there is a Sebring day coming up down here
). Maybe this setup will suit me best.
Perhaps I am incorrect in this statement but if you don't track your car a lot, why buy the ss lines and especially the Motul fluid? You'll want to do at least a partial flush before any event anyway so if you buy it, just save it (sealed) and do a full flush before an event. The ss lines aren't going to buy you anything on the street IMO.
Definately hold the SS lines. If you are running stock fluid, id swap that out at the same time, its not that hard at all, the hardest part is getting all the wheels off, sersiouly. If your talking about the chin school @ Sebring in April, then by all means get at least Panther Plus up front. I have them and they are sick! If you dont mind the hassle, I sure dont, swap to the motul full time, its over kill for the street, but I love it. I cant stand a musshy pedal.
Yep, the stainless lines and the motul will be overkill for the street. You won't really be overheating the fluid at an auto-X. But man will you be able to stop at high speed!!
The stainless lines did make a huge improvement in pedal feel. If you don't like a mushy pedal, you'll love the stainless lines.
The stainless lines did make a huge improvement in pedal feel. If you don't like a mushy pedal, you'll love the stainless lines.
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