if i did a turbo setup on a 2 door manual 94 accord, how much power could i safely be running on the stock f22. I know it has the steel sleeves so i dont have to worry about blowing the engine as easy as the h22 right? Im guessing 8-9 psi would be max with a very good tuning job and uberdata or hondata? What kind of hp and tq numbers have you guys running f22 turbos put down?

 

also is the f22 vtech or non-vtech better to turbo?

 

it makes no difference whether you turbo the f22b1 (vtec) or f22b2 (non-vtec) motor...you will see a little better performance with the vtec head just because of better flow with the boost...if you get it tuned or tune it correctly, you could push about 10 psi safely...from what i've seen, 210-230 hp and 220-240 ft/lbs are typical for 10ish psi...

as far as the reasoning behind the f22 being a safer motor to turbo, you are correct...the h22 has different sleeves that are made for revving high...the steel sleeves in the accord are optimum, as is the compression ratio of 8.8:1 instead of 10.6:1...

 

do you know is there anything i can do to make the car make like 250 whp? Like add cams?

 

..in addition to the turbo setup of course

 

I'm also looking to turbo my '96 accord. I'm looking to get a super v trim drag kit. Anybody with this setup? Details would be appreciated~!!

 

my advice to you, honestly, is to read up on the forced induction forums as much as you can. then when you are ready start peicing together your own turbo kit...take your time too. 10psi is safe on your motor but before you do anything, make sure your motor is ready to handle boost at all. try search search search, thats what i did. good luck to ya

 

well ive read a lot about turbo-ing other honda motors, just never this one. I know before I would even think about turbo-ing it id check all cylinders for compression and make sure the motor is good to begin with. And id piece something together b/c its much cheaper and easier to find what i want. Thats why all im asking what kind of power do some ppl here with an f22 turbo on stock internals put down?? Im just curious if its done much. thanks

 

if you ran like 8 psi on a well built setup you would have no problem making over 200hp
accord freak made 280 something on 14 psi stock internals...i can be done it is the setup and the tuneing that will determine how long the motor will last...i did a half *** set up my first time turboing my can and got it from 160,000 to 175,000 on 5 psi and no tuning...the only reason i took it out was because i had some blow by...these are very strong motors ...


i would turbo a accord over swaping it for a h22 anyday of the week

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i did a turbo setup on a 2 door manual 94 accord, how much power could i safely be running on the stock f22. I know it has the steel sleeves so i dont have to worry about blowing the engine as easy as the h22 right? Im guessing 8-9 psi would be max with a very good tuning job and uberdata or hondata? What kind of hp and tq numbers have you guys running f22 turbos put down?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Iron sleeves. And I thought FRM is designed for weight-saving thermo efficiency and strength more than for higher revs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackfrohatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you ran like 8 psi on a well built setup you would have no problem making over 200hp
accord freak made 280 something on 14 psi stock internals...i can be done it is the setup and the tuneing that will determine how long the motor will last...i did a half *** set up my first time turboing my can and got it from 160,000 to 175,000 on 5 psi and no tuning...the only reason i took it out was because i had some blow by...these are very strong motors ...


i would turbo a accord over swaping it for a h22 anyday of the week</TD></TR></TABLE>


im also looking to turbo my 94 ex 5 speed..but i want to buy the p28 ecu, wideband o2 sensor, and learn uberdata before anything..because if i buy the engine turbo parts i'll end up installing it out of impatientness and blow my ****

 

Well I've been saving up and putting together my own turbo kit for the past 2-3 months for my LX. I've almost got it all together so I'll give you my input too.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nick H &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it makes no difference whether you turbo the f22b1 (vtec) or f22b2 (non-vtec) motor...you will see a little better performance with the vtec head just because of better flow with the boost...if you get it tuned or tune it correctly, you could push about 10 psi safely...from what i've seen, 210-230 hp and 220-240 ft/lbs are typical for 10ish psi...

as far as the reasoning behind the f22 being a safer motor to turbo, you are correct...the h22 has different sleeves that are made for revving high...the steel sleeves in the accord are optimum, as is the compression ratio of 8.8:1 instead of 10.6:1...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think Nick H doesn't really seem to know what he's talking about first of all.

210-230 hp at 10 psi on what turbo?
f22 sleeves are iron like SuperSlow stated.
FRM was not used for high revs. It was used for strength and weight saving. s2000's have FRM sleeves too and I think some NSX engines.

I know st00pid (jason) from autologic tuned an accord making like 280whp not sure what turbo though.
accordfreak was making like 280 at 14 psi as stated by blackfrohatch, on some t3/t4, I think the one that came with the drag kit.
Accord94dx (the guy in my sig) sold his turbo accord which I think had the HKS kit on it. I remember he said it was detonating for a week straight and he went to compression test the engine and it was still perfect.

Basicly you'll get different numbers depending on what turbo you're running. I'm aiming for 250 hp hopefully with around 15 psi with my setup. I have a small t3/t4 .42 intake .48 exhaust side. It sounds like you just need to do a little more research before you jump into this whole turbo thing.

 

I'm about to jump in the same boat as some of these fellas here. I'm also considering turboing my 96 lx engine in the summer, in the meantime, i'm gonna do a auto to manual conversion cuz i heard people lose out with auto turboed cars. But anyway, its nice to see all the optimism in turboing f22's, for awhile there i thought the H22 scene has taken its toll.

 

Just boost it. It will be worth it in the end. By the time you would save up the money for a swap and get it finished, you will be driving around with 200+whp boosted.

 

well, i'm lookin around for the swap parts so hopefully i'll get a good deal. But basically, i'm just tired of driving automatic and love to drive manual..

 

The past few weeks I have been in the same boat as you guys........
is it worth boosting my f22........
or get an H...........
you guys just made my decision for me.......

F22.............boosting soon!!!!!!!

 

i want to turbo an accord to thank it is a good idea

 

10psi and 230-240whp depending on turbo size is an attainable and conservative #.

 

Bossting an F22 is a wise choice. You get more power than you would swapping the H22 and you can do it for well under $1,000. There is a guy selling a turbo kit on cb7tuner. That is for 90-93 accord but he is selling the whole thing for $1,200 wich includes chipped ecu and everything needed accept for the downpipe. He threw down some pretty impressive number with his setup. I will be buying a kit from him but will be using a bigger turbo. My goal is 250WHP and 250+WTQ @ 10psi. One of the master tuners on cbtuner just hit 248whp and 254 ft/lbs @10psi with his setup on a stock f22a block.

 

with that goal in mind, do you plan on beefing up/improving any of the internals or gaskets on your engine? Will the stock engine handle that power as a daily driver in your opinion.

 

Yea boosting the f22 is a good choice. Just start out by making sure your motor is ready (leakdown and compression) and really choose what way to go either piece together your own kit or buying a complete kit.

I just finished installing my turbo on my 96 ex coupe, i'll post up pic's,setup, and dyno results this week hopefully

 

i have a whole thread that i started about my turbo build there is a lot of information in that thread...you can get a lot of info there..and i update it every time i learn something or change something...search my user name and check out the thread..

and i believe that the equation is 10 hp per 1 lb of boost over stock hp...so the stock accord on 8 lbs will be right at about 190-210..but im not sure what it is with fuel management...

this is the link to my thread i have included in this thread websites that work, that have turbo information..good luck with your turbo accord

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1198629

 

just make sure that you the proper a/f ratio..cause i detonated with in 30 sec of running lean on 9.83 psi..make sure that you ziptie the vac. lines on the back of your manifold...

 

Just my 2 cents. all motor vs. boosted is always a highly debated topic. all motor is alot more reliable than boosting. i am not boosted but one thing i hear alot is that once you boost you love it and always want more power. a fully built h22 can get you up to the numbers 8-10psi on a f22 can get you. Tuning is the key though, not just the mods. Not to mention if you boosted a well built h22 8-10psi can get you near 300hp to the ground. There are plenty of guys out there doing 350+. I felt that my car was just too heavy to add just boost to the old f22a6. This is an exspensive hobby but remember, you get what you pay for.

 

hey guys, this is really relevant for 4th gen accords however how practical would it be to turbo a F23a in my 01' Accord? It only has 36k miles on it...do you guys know a decent amount of people who have or what?