hey all,

has anyone seen this before? and if so, why has all this been cut, i mean, it seems as though it was so the car can go lower, but its not that low.

I'm not sure what kind of springs are on here either.
-think these could be some different A-arms?



this is the same on both sides.


and on another note, what is this for? im thinking of just not putting it back, would this cause anyconcerns?


tia,
Z

ps.
this is an 88dx.

 

Well, part of the asssembly is your MAP sensor, so unless you have it on your throttle body, I would advise putting it back together again. The second is the charcoal evap canister, deals with emissions and other fun stuff and is not needed if you're at OBD-1.

 

i think u bought the wrong car with the holes like that ......was the car used to be air bagged for shows ? or something

 

Like mentioned above the car was probably really low and having those cut out lets the upper arm travel a bit more and prevents the banging you usually get with a real low car. My HB has the same holes in the same exact place. I bought my car from a friend and it had air cylinders on it and he wanted it to go as low as possible. Now im looking for bodyshops that can weld some new sheetmetal in and make it look as close to stock as possible.

 

Damn that cant be safe. Get that fixed before you bend and twist the front end!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Losrocket_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like mentioned above the car was probably really low and having those cut out lets the upper arm travel a bit more and prevents the banging you usually get with a real low car. My HB has the same holes in the same exact place. I bought my car from a friend and it had air cylinders on it and he wanted it to go as low as possible. Now im looking for bodyshops that can weld some new sheetmetal in and make it look as close to stock as possible.</TD></TR></TABLE> my bro installed a chamber kit on his integra and it did the same thing (hit the fram), so im guessin the guy cut the holes so that it wont hit and make a squeeking sound.

 

damn zane.... are you guys that bored out there in the sticks and boonies that you take your little honduH cars "mudding"..... or whatever the hell it is u do

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Losrocket_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like mentioned above the car was probably really low and having those cut out lets the upper arm travel a bit more and prevents the banging you usually get with a real low car. My HB has the same holes in the same exact place. I bought my car from a friend and it had air cylinders on it and he wanted it to go as low as possible. </TD></TR></TABLE>
u say it had air cylinders on it. not anymore?

which springs do yall use that lower the car and dont make u cut the frame rail like this? it has some teal colored springs on it right now but i have no idea what brand they are. With the motor in, the A-arms are really close, in fact they just bearly clear the rail now when the car is compressed.
-im kinda glad im not the only one that has had this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Losrocket_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now im looking for bodyshops that can weld some new sheetmetal in and make it look as close to stock as possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>just so happens that im going to school for body shop right now, and this is my project. i will be reinforcing this area under the rail some more, but it wont look stock. I also think i will leave the hole on top, just reinforce the underside of the rails a bit.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkipMic2006 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think u bought the wrong car with the holes like that ......was the car used to be air bagged for shows ? or something </TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha, i really dont think this car was ever in a show.

but it will be.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cjsls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn zane.... are you guys that bored out there in the sticks and boonies that you take your little honduH cars "mudding"..... or whatever the hell it is u do </TD></TR></TABLE>and as for u cj, STFUEMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

People that are into low riders will do that, so basically the frame sits on the ground. Have someone weld some metal there and you will be good to go.

If you in Illinois I could help you out.

 

they cut the damn frame rails!!! get that **** fixed!

 

sorry guy you got ripped, those holes are bad news. if you live in SC I can help you out, but you need to get that fixed soon.

 

yea... well... if it was bagged... thats was for the air bags.. just having camber kits doesnt need that much cut out. probably just a half inch up and an inch or 2 from side to side... basically... thats pretty unsafe... so yea... fix that asap...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaZvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
u say it had air cylinders on it. not anymore?
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Most likely hydraulic cylinders. The hoses feed through the top of the cylinder. Airbag lines are only like 3/8", so you should'nt have to cut a big hole in the fender apron.

 

i agree......had to have hydrulics. the cylinders normally are taller an like he said the prresure line comes through the top....Car was prolly beat on too....

 

i figured it was beat on also, but i have totally stripped the car down now to just a chassis, and besides those cuts there is nothing else wrong with the body. some rust was there, but we've taken care of that already. the body is straight.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The second is the charcoal evap canister, deals with emissions and other fun stuff and is not needed if you're at OBD-1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't 'need' it on OBD-0 either.

It's on all OBD-0~OBD-2 cars. It takes fuel vapors and recirculates them so they just don't get released to atmosphere.
In some cases, not running the EVAP and canister results in the smell of feul in the passanger compartment.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaZvic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i figured it was beat on also, but i have totally stripped the car down now to just a chassis, and besides those cuts there is nothing else wrong with the body. some rust was there, but we've taken care of that already. the body is straight. </TD></TR></TABLE>
what are you gonna end up doing? just cutting some plates and welding it one there? or something else?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't 'need' it on OBD-0 either.

It's on all OBD-0~OBD-2 cars. It takes fuel vapors and recirculates them so they just don't get released to atmosphere.
In some cases, not running the EVAP and canister results in the smell of feul in the passanger compartment.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What would you do with the vacuum lines that run to it then?

 

the holes are thier so the camber kit doesnt hit or make noise

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cjsls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what are you gonna end up doing? just cutting some plates and welding it one there? or something else? </TD></TR></TABLE>
ill try and show some pix tomorrow night.

i think i will leave the holes on the top. just clean them up a little. and as for the sides of the frame rails, i think i will just weld another piece of metal across the side and maybe a little piece underneath. i still dont want anythiing to hit and make noise. so ill have to leave some of that hole there anyway.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What would you do with the vacuum lines that run to it then?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Excellent question!!!
do i just cap off the ends on the manifold where the vacuum lines go? i would think im not supposed to leave them open right?

 

i think you should end yourself, you have over 2k posts and you dont even know what a map sensor or charcoal canister is? and your talking about not using it? do you know about cars at all? i really wonder what all those 2 thousand posts were about....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91efniner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think you should end yourself, you have over 2k posts and you dont even know what a map sensor or charcoal canister is? and your talking about not using it? do you know about cars at all? i really wonder what all those 2 thousand posts were about....</TD></TR></TABLE>

boo freakin hoo.......so what he asked those questions, there have been worse questions asked. im sure he knows what those things are but hes probably just drunk when he gets online.

"hondazvic" has contributed alot to the hybrid forums and im sure the other forums as well, and i'd imagine he does know a thing or two about cars. and who cares about post counts, really.......

 

Well I am pretty sure about why the holes are there as mentioned before but I do know that that is horribly dangerous....lol...since we are all driving unibody vehicles and the car relies on every piece including the glass for its support....and I would defently fix the top also I would be shocked if the metal around those areas are still in spec......good luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What would you do with the vacuum lines that run to it then?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Remove the hose and plug the port... same what you would do on OBD-1.

 

so obd1 cars dont have or use the charcoal canisters, in stock form??