boosting b18c5
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alright guys im thinking about doing a b18c5 swap and then boosting it. reliable or not? also whats the ideal amount of boost to run? 10-12lbs? what all would i need?
also what about building the head making it into a skunk2 head? skunk2 stage 2 cams, valves, valve springs, and retainers? would that help or only cause more harm?
also what about building the head making it into a skunk2 head? skunk2 stage 2 cams, valves, valve springs, and retainers? would that help or only cause more harm?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright guys im thinking about doing a b18c5 swap and then boosting it. reliable or not? also whats the ideal amount of boost to run? 10-12lbs? what all would i need?
also what about building the head making it into a skunk2 head? skunk2 stage 2 cams, valves, valve springs, and retainers? would that help or only cause more harm?</TD></TR></TABLE>
First, "ideal" is a very subjective term, how much HP do you want to make and whats this going to be used for? If its a daily driver and you just want some playful power without having to be butt buddies w/your tuner, 6-8psi should be fine on the high comp. motor, of course you can safely run more with proper fuel delivery and tuning.
Next, you can piece together your own kit, and get the basics, turbo,wastegate,BOV,exhaust mani,fuel system, yada yada yada...., or if you're not comfortable with that, a more expensive (but easier, i guess?) alternative would be a turbo kit, expect to pay around 2500-4000 for this.
Finally, i know skank 2 makes turbo cams, but the stage 2 cams i think you're referring to are NA cams, and they'll just bleed your precious boost right out the door, All motor cams are great for all motor, shitty for turbo. Your stock cams will do just fine, and the stock valvetrain should be fine to stock rev limits, anything more and you'll need to upgrade.
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also what about building the head making it into a skunk2 head? skunk2 stage 2 cams, valves, valve springs, and retainers? would that help or only cause more harm?</TD></TR></TABLE>
First, "ideal" is a very subjective term, how much HP do you want to make and whats this going to be used for? If its a daily driver and you just want some playful power without having to be butt buddies w/your tuner, 6-8psi should be fine on the high comp. motor, of course you can safely run more with proper fuel delivery and tuning.
Next, you can piece together your own kit, and get the basics, turbo,wastegate,BOV,exhaust mani,fuel system, yada yada yada...., or if you're not comfortable with that, a more expensive (but easier, i guess?) alternative would be a turbo kit, expect to pay around 2500-4000 for this.
Finally, i know skank 2 makes turbo cams, but the stage 2 cams i think you're referring to are NA cams, and they'll just bleed your precious boost right out the door, All motor cams are great for all motor, shitty for turbo. Your stock cams will do just fine, and the stock valvetrain should be fine to stock rev limits, anything more and you'll need to upgrade.
Oh yeah, search
if your going to swap anyway, you may want to go with b18c1. The compression is a little lower, and if your going FI, there are a lot more c1's than c5's out there to help with tuning research. check out http://www.boosted-hybrid.com it has some good dynos and its mostly all turboed honda engines.
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it will be a daily driver/friend eater/track car. im planning to take this car to the track and make some good numbers. i kind of wanted to do the c5 because it would be easier to make more power with less boost and a whole hella lot more with more boost, and plus u don't see many true c5's boosted.
What about the skunk2 turbo set up? im looking for as much reliable hp as possible.. don't ask why, just always been a speed junky.
So keep stock revlimiter? what about a hondata or what would best suit my needs? anyone else got suggestions to squeeze more power out of it? clutch and flywheel im planning to do ACT 4 puck disc and ACT prolite fly.
suggestions, suggestions, suggestions. im open to any
What about the skunk2 turbo set up? im looking for as much reliable hp as possible.. don't ask why, just always been a speed junky.
So keep stock revlimiter? what about a hondata or what would best suit my needs? anyone else got suggestions to squeeze more power out of it? clutch and flywheel im planning to do ACT 4 puck disc and ACT prolite fly.
suggestions, suggestions, suggestions. im open to any
get a b18c1. it's cheaper. you should rebuild the block neways w/ forged pistons/rods, and if you're rebuilding the head also then there's no use in spending the extra for the c5. as far as reliability goes, it's all in the tuning. i would go w/ hondata.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90g2ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a b18c1. it's cheaper. you should rebuild the block neways w/ forged pistons/rods, and if you're rebuilding the head also then there's no use in spending the extra for the c5. as far as reliability goes, it's all in the tuning. i would go w/ hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>
agreed, everything ive read on turboed tegs is people saying they wish they would have built their internals first. it is safe to turbo a stock engine, but not with a lot of psi. And from what ive gotten from reading what other people say about turboing their cars, its that they always want more after they start. And as 90g2ls said, if you do rebuild, why spend for the c5?
agreed, everything ive read on turboed tegs is people saying they wish they would have built their internals first. it is safe to turbo a stock engine, but not with a lot of psi. And from what ive gotten from reading what other people say about turboing their cars, its that they always want more after they start. And as 90g2ls said, if you do rebuild, why spend for the c5?
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theres just not that many C5's out there, and a handful that are turbo'ed. well if u guys don't think the C5 would be a good canidate for it..could someone peice me together a very nice c1 build? email me. hkswrx420@aol.com
Like everyone has said. the c1 would be the best choice for boost. the blocks are identical to the c5 just the head work on the c5 is the main difference. with port and polish the gsr head could outflow the R no problem.
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alright well i guess i would consider a c1. could someone tell me some areas i would need to address? like what compression pistons? i would still like to keep it realitivly high for that little extra power. sleeves? any help would be much appreciated. i want to build it to where 20-25lbs is still fairly safe. hit me up
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright guys im thinking about doing a b18c5 swap and then boosting it. reliable or not? also whats the ideal amount of boost to run? 10-12lbs? what all would i need?
also what about building the head making it into a skunk2 head? skunk2 stage 2 cams, valves, valve springs, and retainers? would that help or only cause more harm?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it will be a daily driver/friend eater/track car. im planning to take this car to the track and make some good numbers. i kind of wanted to do the c5 because it would be easier to make more power with less boost and a whole hella lot more with more boost, and plus u don't see many true c5's boosted.
What about the skunk2 turbo set up? im looking for as much reliable hp as possible.. don't ask why, just always been a speed junky.
So keep stock revlimiter? what about a hondata or what would best suit my needs? anyone else got suggestions to squeeze more power out of it? clutch and flywheel im planning to do ACT 4 puck disc and ACT prolite fly.
suggestions, suggestions, suggestions. im open to any</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres just not that many C5's out there, and a handful that are turbo'ed. well if u guys don't think the C5 would be a good canidate for it..could someone peice me together a very nice c1 build? email me. hkswrx420@aol.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright well i guess i would consider a c1. could someone tell me some areas i would need to address? like what compression pistons? i would still like to keep it realitivly high for that little extra power. sleeves? any help would be much appreciated. i want to build it to where 20-25lbs is still fairly safe. hit me up</TD></TR></TABLE>
Obviously you havent done any research and that is why I assume you are asking all of these questions. These questions could be answered by searching, which I assume you havent done yet.
It's nice to see you are enthusiastic about building a motor and thats good, but you should try searching for different buildups and read the FAQ's(in the type R section), and you will find so much information to answer all of your questions and then some. Get a basic foundation of knowledge and then come back with some questions.
I'd post some links, but I'm not gonna do your research for you.
GOOD LUCK
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=979961
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=766629
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1024174
also what about building the head making it into a skunk2 head? skunk2 stage 2 cams, valves, valve springs, and retainers? would that help or only cause more harm?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it will be a daily driver/friend eater/track car. im planning to take this car to the track and make some good numbers. i kind of wanted to do the c5 because it would be easier to make more power with less boost and a whole hella lot more with more boost, and plus u don't see many true c5's boosted.
What about the skunk2 turbo set up? im looking for as much reliable hp as possible.. don't ask why, just always been a speed junky.
So keep stock revlimiter? what about a hondata or what would best suit my needs? anyone else got suggestions to squeeze more power out of it? clutch and flywheel im planning to do ACT 4 puck disc and ACT prolite fly.
suggestions, suggestions, suggestions. im open to any</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres just not that many C5's out there, and a handful that are turbo'ed. well if u guys don't think the C5 would be a good canidate for it..could someone peice me together a very nice c1 build? email me. hkswrx420@aol.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright well i guess i would consider a c1. could someone tell me some areas i would need to address? like what compression pistons? i would still like to keep it realitivly high for that little extra power. sleeves? any help would be much appreciated. i want to build it to where 20-25lbs is still fairly safe. hit me up</TD></TR></TABLE>
Obviously you havent done any research and that is why I assume you are asking all of these questions. These questions could be answered by searching, which I assume you havent done yet.
It's nice to see you are enthusiastic about building a motor and thats good, but you should try searching for different buildups and read the FAQ's(in the type R section), and you will find so much information to answer all of your questions and then some. Get a basic foundation of knowledge and then come back with some questions.
I'd post some links, but I'm not gonna do your research for you.
GOOD LUCK
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=979961
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=766629
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1024174
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