what are some ways to improve aerodynamics?? and im serious about it too...

and please, my reason for this is because im going to be making extremely long trips in the future (500+ miles), and cruising around 100mph on the freeway at night is going to be normal for me so id like to know some ways on how to improve aerodynamics just for more peace of mind....

 

i can't wait till you hit road debris.
anyway i guess if u want aerodynamics then take off the rear bumper and get a 1 piece front end.

 

there have been talks of making a solid undertray, thats supposed to help alot, never tried one or anything, but i was reading a post the other day on it. also getting air out of the cavity in the rear bumper is supposed to help too, so like basicaly cut holes in your rear bumper. i know that sounds bad, but, basicaly thats what you do.

 

a lot of guys cut holes in their bumper just "for show"

 

2 be honest i think thats pretty stupid tho... ur tryin 2 fix up ur car 2 be more aerodynamic just so u can cruis 100mph on the freeway... Ask urself tho if its worth the risks to get to ur destination like an hour early.

first 100mph on the freeway is automatic reckless driving n u wont b driving no more.

second the money ur gona have to pay for that ticket is money u could spent elsewhere

third I know 100mph isn't exactly mach speed but ur gona **** ur car up like that... and if it doesn't just *** it up then you'll hit roadkill and spin off n die especially at night it aint smart to drive 500 miles @ 100mph.

btw quit movin the drugs

 

make a front and rear undertray/ defuser...

you need to make it flat from your front bumper/ lip baco to about the midle of your tires... If you can find a picture of the MUgen DC2 od DC5 front bumpers they have the undertray built in.

In the back you want it flat from about the center of the tires back to your rear bumper. maybe some strakes? I believe they are called.... straight long pieces that come down off the flat part towards the ground... they help to channel the air flow in the right direction. ( much more effective than cutting holes in your bumper )

and if you are really going to be seeing some high speeds an adjustable wing might be benificial to...

try looking in the Road race autocross forum for some aerodynamics threads, they got some good ones.

SEARCH is your friend

 

hey guy put some front spoiler on it........and itll make you look cool too....

 

Lowering the car helps a little.
Smaller side mirrors.
Rear wheel covers.
Skinnier tires.
Tape all the body panel seams.
Remove windsheild wipers
Wash the car.
Wax the car.
Full undertray will help a lot.
Drive slower.
Low side skirts help.
Front Air Dam keeps air from getting under the car (may slightly decrease coeficent of drag).
Rear difuser adds mucho downforce, (may slightly decrease coeficent of drag).

You know that your power requirements increase exponentialy the faster you drive right? Power reqirements almost triple when you go from 60mph to 100mph.

DON'T DRIVE 100 MPH. THAT SHOWS YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE SAFTEY OF OTHERS. IF YOU WANT TO KILL YOURSELF, START SHOOTING HEROIN OR SOMETHING!!!!

 

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first 100mph on the freeway is automatic reckless driving n u wont b driving no more.

second the money ur gona have to pay for that ticket is money u could spent elsewhere
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not in alabama it isnt anywayz, yea the money thing is what keeps me from going to fast

go with a triple deck wing....jk

 

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You know that your power requirements increase exponentialy the faster you drive right? Power reqirements almost triple when you go from 60mph to 100mph.

DON'T DRIVE 100 MPH. THAT SHOWS YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE SAFTEY OF OTHERS. IF YOU WANT TO KILL YOURSELF, START SHOOTING HEROIN OR SOMETHING!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

and you're going to be killing your gas milage. if you drive 75mph instead of 100mph, you'll be getting like 40% better gas milage. not to mention that you can get fined up to $1000 and two points for driving over 100mph. there's tons of CHP in the Sac area. i drve through there a couple times a month going to tahoe. is it REALLY worth it?

 

What I'd really like to know is what is the reasoning you have for wanting your car to be more aerodynamic? Have or are you currently experiencing aerodynamic problems with your car? Is it unstable at speed? I mean really.....unless you're experiencing a real problem, it makes no sense to try and fix it. The 100mph cruising is another issue all together but I'm sure if you call up ACME products.....you know....the same people that gear up Wile E. Coyote....they can help you.

 

jesus people stop yelling at him for driving fast, its his decision....oh and btw, I get much better milage at 90mph then I do at 60. My car puts pratically no effort into going 90mph, but hits a brick wall at 130.
I drive as fast as you also....

Personally I would panel your underbody, and thats it. I'm pretty sure that helps a lot. I've been thinking about doing it myself. I was thinking of cutting my own carbon fiber....but you also have to worry about exhaust heat and such. It would have to be pretty well engineered. Oh and if you have a wing...ditch it.

All and all, I've decided it would cost a lot to make a civic aerodynamic, more than it would cost to just buy a late 80's camaro (very aerodynamic). If you want aerodynamic, modify a car that already is.

 

If your car gets better mileage at 90, than 60, then you have serious problems w/ your tuning.

A 92-95 civic hatch has the same coefficent of drag as a NSX. If you think an 80's Camaro is aerodynamic, you should look up the coefficent of drag for that boxy heep. If you wan't aero dynamic, get an Insight. That car has the best CD available, and so do cars like it...

As for speeding being his/your descision, Think again. I think the government decides apropriate speeds & you should follow them. Others depend on your ablility to follow the rules of the road to them home safley everyday. IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU.

 

you should have as much hot air underneath your car as insanely possible. that will keep you stuck to the ground for sure
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i hope you guys are driving towards eachother while you both are going 100 mph. play chicken while your at it. it's just as stupid as speeding

 

drill 3" holes in the rear bumper, look for a vx rear diffuser if you are a 92-95, get the front of the car as low as possible.
keep the **** waxed
keep the wings on the birds
remove anything on the outside, like wipers, antenna, etc.
make sure your windows are closed
make sure you are lowered as much as possible
get taller skinnier tires
use hubcaps like the salt racers
keep the exhaust in the channel
remove sound deadening, or foam/glass smooth
tape the cracks on the front (hood, lights etc)
keep the glass clean

that should do it, you may want to look into a bodykit as well, just another way to get less air under the car.

 

You odn't have to neccesarily drill big holes in the rear bumper, you can just cover up the gap between the bottom of the car and the rear bumper, this seems to get rid of a lot of the parachute effect. Another thing to consider is the birds, most birds will take off just in time that they get away form you if your speeding at a moderate rate, anywhere over 100 though they seem to be unprepared and dont' take off until it's too late. Surprisingly they dont' seem to do much damage since most birds are pretty little, they do make for a kinda messy setup, feathers and guts get smashed into the crevices between the headlights and hte hood and the hood and bumper, I'm sure the tape would help a little in that respect also.




Modified by red91sit at 6:42 PM 1/20/2005

::EDIT:: Ahh you remind me of my youth, I remember racing the clcok on my 75 mile trip from my house to my unlcles cabin in my mothers Plymouth Breeze. My best time turned out to be an avg. speed of 100 MPH. Not bad since it was governed at 110 and the little 2.0 in a car that heavy was really not sufficent, if there was more than one in the car, or a slight head breeze you wouldn't hit the governor.

It was a long twisy road between lakes for the first 20 minutes. By the end of those few weeks down there I had them nearly memorized. I still recall the one corner right after an s turn in a small valley. Coming from the S it would be a gentle 120 degree right with a crest in the middle of it. When I hit the top of the crest and all four wheels squeel as you slip slightly across the road catching full traction again as you enter the shoulder of the opposite lane.
A few miles down the road came the interestate, this leg of the trip involved lots of ricer flybys using both lanes and both shoulders.

Ahh anyways, don't hurt your self or others out there, I learned from the past and now I'm far more careful since I fully realize tickets and the safety of others is completely under my control. Granted I still speed occasionally but never with the velocity or carelessness of my past.


Modified by red91sit at 6:54 PM 1/20/2005


Modified by red91sit at 6:56 PM 1/20/2005

 

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We get upset about this cuz usually the people that get hurt when someone is driving like that is our mothers, sisters, brothers, and fathers. If you want to get to where your going faster, just leave earlier.

You guys are the reason why the cops pull us over for no reason, when we are driving our civics and tegs. They profile us. They think we all do the stupid **** you guys do.

 

I hear that I hit a bird on my zx6r (ninja) and the damb thing went in and exploded on my header...what a smelly stinkey mess that was ,... I was doing around 120 and it was a good sized blackbird (I think)

 

aerodynamics? why not add tie bars and a stiffer suspension so you won't be floating across the freeway and you can keep the wheels planted on the ground..... also keep in mind more weight will keep the car stable at speeds.

 

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Dude... no matter what u do ur not gonna feel a difference at 90 mph. Hondas are pretty stable at high speeds anyway &gt;140... Iv been in a friends swapped hatch at 140 mph at the ford proving grounds and it pretty stable. The bottom line is.. you drive a honda, not a 911 twin turbo

 

If you really need this, join team-integra, there was an extremely long well written piece about a hard undertray and a front and rear diffuser, it has diagrams and the science behind it. It will help you not only understand the concept behind why you are doing these things but it also has plans. (for an integra but you can be smart and make your own).

 

ya an undertray would be best for a honda since its an FF. A big rear spoiler is for FR's who need to keep the traction on the rear wheels at high speeds. I think honda's need only moderate rear downforce.

 

be a man, take the long trip...drive at 70-80mph. take someone with you to exchange driving. driving at 100mph is insane...follow the road rules homie

 

spoon lip
spoon duckbill
spoon mirrors
spoon wheels
spoon shiftknob

youll hit 200+mph with this setup yO

 

what about a front bumber diffusser that gives you more down force in the front?