My venom intake mani came in today for my turbo GSR project and i noticed there are no provisions for the AIC at all. How the hell does that work? What can i do to use it? or eliminate it? What are some of your setups with this intake mani? thanks
-james

 

wont idle right without the AIC no matter what you do. there's some people that have "phantom" setups that seem to do fine with the AIC simply hooked up and dangling out in the air but they have freak engines....lol.

I say figure out some way of rigging up an AIC or deal with your goofy *** idle that you'll more than likely get.

probably easiest if you have access to a few grinders of sorts would be to grind out the AIC mount from your original manifold....make a hole in the new manifold for the original mount and then take the new manifold and the original mount to a local machine shop and have them tig it in place and you'll be good to go.

but this is just me...I like my **** to work right

 

Ive blocked off the IAC before on some of my cars, yes you have to sit there with it for 5 mins until it decides it wants to idle on its own. I could do that, which sucks ***. -or-
I had this brainstorm. drill/tap for another fitting on the underneath side of the intake, plumb vac hose into the interior, run a inline valve and filter on it
So basically it creates a vacuum leak cuasing higher idle on cold start, then after warmed up, close the valve and life is good. Is it a jerry rig, hell yes. Will it work? I think it will. Anyone else have any ideas??

 

anyone have any input on my controlled vacuum leak for the cold start idea?

 

u wont feel right doing something that ghetto.

 

for some reason I think he will feel just fine, after he put that LS1 in a 7, he shouldn't feel bad about much of anything.

 

but what would happen to it at about 22psi of boost would it hold or blow it to pieces???

people have found a way to "rig " it with ITBs so thier has to be a way i would look at how they have it on thier set ups

 

that Ls1 is more at home in my Rx7 than that piece of **** rotardly engine... Dont hate on it. Smoke any street legal honda with 100% intterior on this board...
$1000 says so

22psi will it hold or blow? Where did that come from? lol. im only shootin for 300whp. 12lbs should do just fine.

i think my rig will work. Find out in a week or so. might have a venom intake for sale shortly.

 

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$1000 says so
22psi will it hold or blow? Where did that come from? lol. im only shootin for 300whp. 12lbs should do just fine.

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I believe you 100 percent, but I am a rotary guy and don't like cars that have been coverted to V8s, that is the whole reason to buy a Rx7 in the first place. I know people love it, but hey I am just a rotary guy and have been since I was a little kid, I wasn't hating. I was just picking.

That was a bold statement considering you are already 4 cylinders up on all of us.

BUt anyway, give it a try and see what happens, I am curious how it will work out.

 

I could sense the rotardness vibe comming from the computer. Im sorry, the engine design is kickass in thoery, but it just does not work in a daily driver. After 3 13b's, that was enough for me. The most insignificant **** can destroy the engine in a second. Theres sooo many pros about the Ls1/fd swap it brings a tear to my eye There literally is not one legit con about the swap. bla bla bla i can go on forever.

So yah, il post some info if my mad riggin skillz on this setup works or not.

 

hahaha, "rotardly"

 

Oh I believe you. You can put a rotary down real quick, they hate heat, and need to be tuned perfect to keep a boosted one a live. I don't hate on anyone that does a swap in a car, b/c I know how hard it is to do. But I just love my rotaries, so that just about sums it up. I am pretty sure I saw a twin turboed V8 in a 2nd gen, that was pretty crazy.

It is funny, I get flamed for going onto an rx7 forum and talking about hondas and I get flamed for talking about rotaries on a honda forum. Well not really talking rotaries, just rotardness.... that is just wrong.

 

I bought a Venom intake and got pissed off and sold it for a skunk 2. Too much of a headache for a street car. LOL that's how I made it work!!!!

 

As im sittin in my JDM recaro seat typing this. i have my venom IM on my left and my skunk2 on my right... Looks left, looks right, scratches head...

Honestly, whichever one makes more power is the one im keeping. lol. I dont care if one is more of a pain, i'l take the additional power.
I'l dyno one, then the other. Make a good comparisson write up as well!!

 

whats there to get?

Ive also got a Venom sqquare D16 man, I just drilled the 4 holes, 2 were tapped and the other 2 bored out to what the IACV inner holes are

I dont have this mounted on the car yet but why didnt you think of this?

Am I missing something? My engine is a D16a6 BTW

Is there some hoses that go somewhere where my method wont work...?

 

well, if you had a b-series it wouldnt work. The flange the TB mounts to on the intake manifold has a special hole for the idle control. It takes air from the TB and goes through that journal to the AIC. With the venom for b-series, there is no hole or journal, it wont work. D-series, i dont know, i use those engines for boat ancors...

 

oh, well the IACV on a D16 is mounted on the back of the mani

Ive seen people get descent idles with them though

Venom mani for FI will ALWAYS make more power than ******* skunk2/edlebrock

JUST LOOK AT THE ******* THING!! ITS HUGE!!

 

mines polished too, so gotta consider the bling factor... Although i never open my hood...

 

i was speakin gof your controlled leak when i said will it hold a good amount of boost, i had some rigged up **** on my FPR and blew it off like amillion times at only 10psi, i was just saying i hope it doesnt pop off or something when in boost thats all bro.

but seriously you can make the iacv work off the manifold, like i said look at all the ITB cars out there

 

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-james</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wha? I bought mine used, and there were holes for the IAC, but it sure did look like it came like that from venom . . . Here are a few pics:




See there is like an extra plate welded up, and the welds look just like venom's, that's why I thought it came like that

 

not mine, smooth like a mirror.
My STR i had a while ago had the plate/mounting bracket deal for the AIC.

 

Thats what I was taling about man, just drill and tap the holes at the back

Very easy, and if you cant do it, bring the IACV and the mani to a machine shop and theyll easily do it

 

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$1000 says so
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strong statement there...better run 9's

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ls1 FD3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that Ls1 is more at home in my Rx7 than that piece of **** rotardly engine... Dont hate on it. Smoke any street legal honda with 100% intterior on this board...
$1000 says so </TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahahahahahahahaha....your cars bad but its not THAT bad. come to az...650 aint bad on gas. we have boost here ...the big boys have lag but thats just to give ya a chance

you can boot the rwd advantage. there's an s2k only 100hp shy of you, low boost and 91 octane. $1000 might just be worth some c16 and high boost tuning. then he'll turn the ac on in the staging lane lol

like mpir3 said...you better run nines, deep deep nines

squeez all you want...ill be the one lauging

 

Just to give you an idea... 515rwhp was good for 9.80s @ 140 with 1.42 60fts. I cut 1.33 60fts now.... bring that S2k, my car weighs less than it. I know the actuall numbers, so dont try and justify some whack *** ****. I run on 93 octaine all day long, stock heads, stock bottom end.

Only reason youll be laughing is because you'll be dumbfounded when you get your *** landed on and your S2k gets beat by buslengths. You might be able to match/beat 650Rwhp, but you cant match my 784Trq. NO honda makes real torque, your 650Rwhp s2k prolly has 450trq if its lucky @ 5k rpms. I have almost double your trq from 2800-7000

My cousin lives in pheonix Az. i am going to visit him this spring/summer. Better have $1000 and a damn fast car, otherwise its a waste of my time. Yes i will drive my car from IL to Az as it was already planned.

No im not hating on hondas. Im obviously building one right now, i have much love for them. Just gotta lay down the laws when i need to.

- The Ls1 ownz. When you guys gonna realize this?