Just wondering if you guys have any suggestions, or anything I've left off that I can try to help solve my missing issues.

1. Burn a new Chip with a cleaner tune
2. MSD plug wires ---> NGKs
3. Ground wires (stock except for bat.) ---> Replaced with larger wires
4. New coil wire
5. MSD Digital 6 with SS coil

I will try out each, make a run, and see how it makes a difference (if any). If there is nothing, I will move on too the next.





TIA,
Bryson

 

Thats what it consists of right now.

 

I would get the Ngk plug wires, replace the transmission ground and valve cover ground wires, make sure the coil wire is put together rite and not vibrating and coming appart durring runs..

Also Blaster ss coils are a cheap fix if the coil is bad...

I will tell you this thou I like yourself thought that if I had good plugs, decent plugwires a new cap&rotor and ss blaster coil that I wouldn't have to worry about my ignition again till I was way over 500whp....... wrong.

A lil story for ya so I get my car on the dyno, 24psi, 110octane 23deg of timing on ngk 8 plugs my car cuts out making 467whp. So we take 1 deg of timing out and I got what I'm making now 454whp running smoothly..

So results will very between cars some will make 400whp on stock ignitions and some will only have a $35 coil and go over 600whp with it..

Good Luck!

 

Yeah thats definetly what I've found.

A guy on here is making over 600hp with just a ss coil, while at the same time Tony1 tells me that the coil is useless without an ignition box.

:sigh:

 

Quick Question...If my car was misfiring, would I end up with any codes?

91 CRX with OBD1 swap P28 ecu

I just checked again, and I have no codes.

 

I would check your ignitor. Better yet, just swap distributor's with someone who has a compatible one for a few minutes and try it out.

What's your plug gap at? too-big of a gap has caused me missing issues before.

I also had a nasty misfire problem in a h22 hatch I built... I didn't fix it until I completey replaced the engine wiring harness (there was a short somewhere).

Please be sure to ensure that all of your engine grounds are TIGHT. That has bitten be before too (the harness ground that attaches to the thermostat housing was loose which caused my motor to run like crap in general)

 

Try this...

New Dizzy (Distributor King)
Fresh Plugs gapped at .028"
New OEM Wires

You shud be real close to 400whp or more before this setup doesn't work.

 

send your dizzy back for your warranty. That is what I did with distributor king and my misfiring went away. I was getting that no1 cylinder position sensor so many times

 

Don't know if this would help, but I had a problem I thought to be ignition missfireing, but after an entire ignition system change I found it to be my v-tec selanoid was going in and out and playing hell with the car. Just a thought, Good luck.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah thats definetly what I've found.

A guy on here is making over 600hp with just a ss coil, while at the same time Tony1 tells me that the coil is useless without an ignition box.

:sigh:</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know exactly who your talking about and I looked at his setup aswell and said if thats all he's got than I shouldn't have a problem.. but you never know..

 

why would you go from msd wires to ngk if you are using msd ignition and coil? msd are better wires to use their ignition

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">send your dizzy back for your warranty. That is what I did with distributor king and my misfiring went away. I was getting that no1 cylinder position sensor so many times</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm pretty sure he got rid of the distributor from distributor king and got a new one, and it still misfires. . .

 

from another thread . . .
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If anyone remembers my old post, I was having missing issues when I went to the dyno. About 12 people mentioned they had the same issues with Distributor king distros, so I swaped it out for an OEM...yet I'm still having problems.

I guess I ruled out that the distro WASN'T my problem.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Change the plugs and gap them down to .o25". On some cars i've tuned, it would miss at .028 and i gapped it down a little and the miss went away. Worth a try. Paul

 

I had skipping problems with my 6al untill I switched to a digital 6. Now it runs very smooth.

 

UGH!

I'm hearing SOOO many conflicting statements it's driving me insane!

Like m R g S r has mentioned, I swapped the distributor king distro out because a lot of people said they were having the same issues with they'res. So I got an OEM (known to work fine), swapped in some new plugs (gapped at .020") and it still misses.

DOHCarp...how would I tell the solenoid is going in and out? The Hondata log shows its on, but of course thats just the ECU.

I'm burning a new tune tommarow, checking the grounds again, and hopefully ordering some NGK wires.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quick Question...If my car was misfiring, would I end up with any codes?

91 CRX with OBD1 swap P28 ecu

I just checked again, and I have no codes. </TD></TR></TABLE>

?

 

Nice setup,
i like ef's.

i'm a fan of stock honda wires over anything else myself though..

 

I'm having a missing problem too on my new set-up. It is more or less all the time, not just on the dyno. I haven't figured it out yet either. It is a little hick-up miss that just won't go away. So far I've switched distributors, wires, plugs, ran 8 gauge grounds, to no avail. Did a leak down too. I am going to try ECU, V-tec solenoid, next. I'll post it up here if I find anything out. Oh, one more thing. I am going to re-check mine, but a buddy of mine thought his grounds were ok, then he tried to retighten the ground on the thermostat, the bolt broke off, it was rusted through inside......just a thought.

 

what kind of injectors are you running?

i've seen people run into probs like that running RC's.
as they have a different spray pattern than honda injectors(i really dont see why so many ppl run rc's when the spray pattern does not match actually).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of injectors are you running?

i've seen people run into probs like that running RC's.
as they have a different spray pattern than honda injectors(i really dont see why so many ppl run rc's when the spray pattern does not match actually).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bryson has pte 1000cc injectors with a really nice hondata setup.

liam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah thats definetly what I've found.

A guy on here is making over 600hp with just a ss coil, while at the same time Tony1 tells me that the coil is useless without an ignition box.

:sigh:</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I made over 600whp with just a blaster SS coil. As I stated in your PM, send me your bin file and post up some dyno sheets. Also, have you tried 9s spark plugs?

Jason

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blown90hatcH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, I made over 600whp with just a blaster SS coil. As I stated in your PM, send me your bin file and post up some dyno sheets. Also, have you tried 9s spark plugs?

Jason</TD></TR></TABLE>

Heres the wicked *** dyno sheet for anyone who hasn't seen it yet...




I'm running those 9 series plugs

 

Hmm, that's what I'm running.......exactly.

On my 1st dyno tune, I had a couple problems that I wasn't aware of. Low compression(bad valve seats on a freshly built motor ) and low fuel pressure(guage was bad, read 50 psi, with a new one I'm at 37psi and still rich). I had stock ignition, and made it to 440whp@6800rpms(dynopack) 22psi when the spark dropped 50ftlbs and hp leveled out. I video taped the runs, and on playback(25 frames per second I-movie) I was jumping 40 hp up and down from 7k to 8.5k rpms. Same thing at 14psi at about 350whp. Looks kinda like your smoothed out dyno plot?

 

Welp...Heres today's recap.

Its running lean while cruising, and rich at idle once the car gets fully warmed up. The chip is burned propperly to run 14.7 at idle, so I think the O2 sensor might be fubbared...?

I unhooked the coil from the back while the car was running and it almost died...because of that. I shut the car off, and mounted the coil up/down instead of sideways, and made a new coil wire. Seems to run a lot better now. It pulls pretty smooth on 9psi.

Also...Found out my boost controller is a pieice of ****. Its the **** style one sold by StreetRays. It will either run 9psi (wastegate spring) or 20+. Nothing in between. I did 15 pulls and 10 of those pulls were just trying to get the damn boost controller to 12lbs.

YAY.