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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Default Install guys or Civic people that have put door speakers in... please help!

What are the magic numbers for depth space and diameter? I contacted Tweeter today and they said not much room to put a deep speaker in and the door opening is only 6" and not 6.5" like some say. Anyone know what dimension speakers I can fit in there without custom mods? I want to get DLS or CDT pieces which have a rather large basket and are true 6.5's.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Not sure of the actual depth, I wouldn't worry about it. Just make some MDF rings. You said you don't want to do custom mods, but it is a really easy job if you got a router or a rotozip.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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I had 6.5" Kenwood coaxs in the doors of a '97 Civic sedan I owned a few years ago... I don't remember having to modify anything to get them in.

Oops! Make that triaxs or 3-ways... Kenwood KFC-1687's.



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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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virtually nothing will fit without some custom work. Cut out the rain guard and a lot more speakers wiil fit. A true 6.5" likd a dls should fit with minor modification under the factory grill with minor work.

Diamonds fit with just a bit of cutting. Honda f u c k e d us with those doors, so to add more options, just do some cutting. Then use seom screws to attach the speakers to the plastic by drilling your own holes.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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I'm telling ya... I installed those Kenwoods in a Circuit City parking lot on the way to a football game. I dropped by CC to get some harness adapters so I could just plug 'em up real quick. I modified nothing, did no custom work.

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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 06:05 AM
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Anyone have the dimensions of that speaker?
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Intercooler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone have the dimensions of that speaker?</TD></TR></TABLE>
All I can find online other than the 6½" size is a listing of 1-15/16" mounting depth.

These speakers mounted in the Civic doors with no mods... they are now residing in the doors of my daughter's '98 Accord EX Coupe V6 with no mods.

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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Intercooler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone have the dimensions of that speaker?</TD></TR></TABLE> The speaker IS a standerd 6.5", [ they use a 5" mounting hole] and all true 6.5" speakers will have screw mounting holes that line up with the stock ones, the mounting depth is about 2", [ without cutting out the back of the rain cap] you can add more depth by cutting out the back of the rain cap, [ only cut out a hole big enough for magnet to fit through] you can also add a depth reduser, [ MDF ring] and depending on speaker, [ hight of tweeter, if coax] will limit depth redusers thickness, adding a DR will also let you install some of the new oversized 6.5" speakers, [some that have a mounting hole dia. of up to 5 1/4" and do not have mounting screw holes that line up with the stock ones, [ mount the MDF DR ring useing the stock screw holes and mount the speaker to the MDF DR ring] remember this, a smaller properly mounted speaker will always sound better then a poory mounted bigger speaker, same gos for a properly mounted cheaper speaker will sound better then a poorly mounted more expensive speakers. 94
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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Here is the specs on the DLS Iridiums: http://www.dls.se/english/index.htm


2.56" depth and 5.51" hole. May be a real PITA!


If I get the CDT 6.5's: http://www.cdtaudio.com/drivers_overview.htm

2.75" depth and 5.6875" hole. Even more of a pain!


What mods do you think I will need? I am going with one of these. I am leaning towards the CDT's but if it is a mounting pickle then the DLS will work too.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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Where do you get the depth reducers? Have a link? Will it still fit under the stock speaker cover?
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Intercooler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where do you get the depth reducers? Have a link? Will it still fit under the stock speaker cover?</TD></TR></TABLE>

depth reducer is just a fancy way of saying mdf ring - a donut out of wood - you can just cut one with a jig saw.

the DLS would probably be a hell of a lot easier to fit in there because it has a tiny magnet and basket. If you want high performance sound, you gotta mod those doors a bit.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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With the mods will you still be able to run the stock cover grills?
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Intercooler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With the mods will you still be able to run the stock cover grills?</TD></TR></TABLE>

depends.....cut the rain guard out and be careful when you mount the driver and they should fit without a problem....then again, I fit 7" drivers with almost 3" of depth with the factory grill still attached
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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CDTs are nasty to get in the doors. I have the HD 6.5 component mids and they took a .75 MDF baffle to fit properly. Do the "custom work" though it is worth it. For $10 in materials and an hour of your time you can have far better sound. Now what I do recommend is to throw some dynamat around where the baffle is going and then fill any further gaps between the ring and the door with silicone caulk to close up any air leaks around the baffle. Also if you wanna spend a few more bucks do a layer of sound deadner on the door to decrease resonance and cover all the holes in the door for a true infinite baffle design.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Did the factory cover fit with the spacer?
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blazin Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CDTs are nasty to get in the doors. I have the HD 6.5 component mids and they took a .75 MDF baffle to fit properly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes I agree.

Cutting ring.




Ring in place.


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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Yes I agree.

Cutting ring.




Ring in place.


</TD></TR></TABLE>Is that tempered hardboard? 94
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is that tempered hardboard? 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

No idea to be honest. Just some cheap **** we found to use. It serves it purpose.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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maybe i need a differnet speaker cause i just picked up the rockford fosgate t162c new power 2 ways and that **** dont fit...... cut out the rain guard and the thing is still to small.. maybe get a smaller speaker and use one of those ring things... well see
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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My speaker did not fit with out the ring. The basket was to large and that is reason I needed the ring. Also it was quite close to the window as well.

Hit me up if you have ? Ill help if I can.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NetLogic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My speaker did not fit with out the ring. The basket was to large and that is reason I needed the ring. Also it was quite close to the window as well.

Hit me up if you have ? Ill help if I can. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hitting you up now!
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