Let's just say I'm taking a path less traveled.

I'm looking for a way to raise an EH/EG/DC chassis. I'm thinking most coilover setups can give me a little, but I'm looking at going between 4 and 8 inches up.

Any ideas?

Don't bother stating your opinion about this idea, because I don't care. Flames are expected.

Thanks to all who can help.

 

so u wanna raise your car 4 to 8 inches?

 

the only thing i can think of is hydrolics.

 

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LMAO

 

I would think some parts from a CRV will help you out.

 

its monster garage time!..

id say hydro's

 

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****, I didn't even think about that...will CRV bits bolt up, or will I need to do a lot of custom fabbing?

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Pretty much, ya.

 

I haven't done it myself nor do I plan to. But just taking a quick look under a crv and it looks a heck of alot like my civic.

If I had extra cash I would love to build a awd crx.

 

Damn, that'd do wonders for upgrading the puny suspension system on the EG...thanks for the tip, I'll look into that.

 

find some 9 or 10 or 11 inch springs buy some coil overs and put them all the way up, at least as far as it can go with the shock rod

 

basically, you need to find a shock that fits that has more extension travel than stock. something that has your required 4-8" of extra travel. springs would be easy. ground controls with the longest spring avaliable or stock ones if they are longer and make the necessary adjustments with the gc.

 

any why are you raising the car? they sit pretty high at stock height

 

Go find a 4x4 or rock crawler website and see what they do to the trucks. Then translate each action they do into something for the car. I can only imagine it will take some custom parts and trial and error to get it to work properly.

You may end up just lowering all the suspension points, in turn raising the car. Essensially build a custom lift kit that moves all the suspension points.

 

Have these guys build you a custom coilover setup. http://www.kingshocks.com/shocks.htm

I know there are a few rally guys in the RR/AX forum so you might want to ask what they run.

It all comes down to how much you want to raise the car too. You may want to think about more than just how to get the car to sit higher though. Just as with lowering, raising changes the geometry of the suspension. Particularly camber with our cars. While negative camber is a good thing, positive camber is not. If you raise the car you will get positive camber. You can look into a camber kit that only adjusts in negative camber so you can straigten up the wheels. http://www.jhpusa.com sell camber kits that allow additional negative adjustment. If it's not enough you'll have to look into custom upper arms.

 

Get longer springs. I have a set of old del Sol Si springs sitting around that are pretty long. Combine them with GC Coilovers and you could go up a few inches.

 

Nonsense in right on about the severe geometry issues that you are going to have even with a fraction of that height change. You still haven't said why you want that much more height but there is no way your Honda suspension is going to work front stock pickup points anywhere near that high.

For a local rallycross, I took an '89 CRX Si and installed some stock springs on a set of Neupseed Koni SP3 units with the perch in the highest location (perch up 15mm from stock) and that gave me in the vicinity of under one inch higher than stock ride height. Even at that point, the car went basically into slight positive camber (the last thing you'd want for street or pavement performance) but it was okay for a short term, beggers-can't-be-choosers set-up on rally tires and dirt for a one day event. It went well (FTD including beating several buggies) but the car was not of normal handling quality for the drive home.

I think you are going to have a great deal of suspension re-engineering to get the car that high and have anything like a suspension on it. Think about your CV angles if your engine and transmission stay in the normal place but the hub is 4-8 inches lower, we are talking close to bind and breakage I would think. You need to decide also how much real suspension stroke you are going to expect. Will the car be up that high but still use a normal to slightly greater than normal Honda suspension travel or is the car expected to get clsoe to the same amount of stroke as what the raising of the car is? The former might be possible, the latter is a dream unless you scrap most of what you have.

I'd bet it can be done but to make it usable it will be insteresting work. remember most 4x4s that get raised that much are solid axle rears and likely front and any independant suspensions use a lot of longer, fabricated arms and relocated pivot points. Good luck.

 

maybe: http://www.dmshocks.com/docs/dms50.html
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they may be able to make you a custom version of this: http://www.dmshocks.com/docs/dms60ss.html

the only complaints i've had or heard of about DMS suspension involved their 40mm "gold" street units. i have a feeling the 40mm units are a 'trickle down' product that didn't get enough of a trickle (just from my personal experience - other people have had absolutely no issues).

 

I don't think any shock and spring package alone is going to get him anywhere near the height he is talking about based on the current suspension geometry without having his suspension alignment pointing in goofy and unsafe direction if it cen get there at all without hitting max droop. If it can go anywhere near that car in the frsit place, it will hav e so much positive camber, toe, it etc. that it may be dricing nearly on the side walls when cornering if not tucking under the car and rolling.

 

You can't just raise the car up. 2 inches you might get away with but beyond that you are putting the suspension in such an angle that it would fail to function right.

You can get away with lowering a car using springs because you are still within your suspensions usable geometry.