1 piece front end streetable?
Anyone ever done street with a 1 pice front end? I saw pics of a front end with headlights.http://www.mmrusa.com/8891Fiber.htm
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You mean with stickers as headlights right? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Danny stop repeating what I already said. Gosh, and give me my sledgehammer bike back.
Danny stop repeating what I already said. Gosh, and give me my sledgehammer bike back.
Do you expect to walk away from an accident or not....................
If you don't care go ahead.....but they offer no structurat integrity.
If you don't care go ahead.....but they offer no structurat integrity.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef_you »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what's the point of one peice</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lightweight
Lightweight
Not stickers. With headlights like the link I posted. I hardly drive it on the street but when I want to I want to(you know?). I don't care about safety. the car is unsafe anyways
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Karterguy13 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not stickers. With headlights like the link I posted. I hardly drive it on the street but when I want to I want to(you know?). I don't care about safety. the car is unsafe anyways</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then yes its streetable.
Then yes its streetable.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by virginia_dude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you expect to walk away from an accident or not....................
If you don't care go ahead.....but they offer no structurat integrity.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And the plastic bumper and super thin metal fenders do?
If you don't care go ahead.....but they offer no structurat integrity.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And the plastic bumper and super thin metal fenders do?
I'm scared of the car from the factory. And if I don't do this front end I'll end up cutting bumper supports and stuff. Just as unsafe. I leave it to that thing thats stamped B18 to save me. LOL
Okay, I gotta go on a rant...
I don't get the "these cars are already deathtraps" crap I keep hearing about CRXs. Do you guys really believe that? As far as I know, the cars that were sold in the US had to pass every single US government-mandated crash test that every other new car sold here at the time had to pass. These include rollover, side-impact, frontal, and rear-end crash tests. I'd point out to you that light trucks (which include the Ford F150, Chevy Silverado, and Dodge Ram, some of the best-selling VEHICLES on the planet) and the vast majority of SUVs don't have to meet such rigorous tests, thanks to the trucking lobby.
CRXs met every government mandate that was in place when they were new. If they didn't, they'd never have been sold here. Period. Is it as safe as SOME cars? Probably not, but it's a lot safer than many. As I recall, it actually scored pretty well in private-industry (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety - IIHS, and Consumer Reports, if memory serves) crash testing as well.
The people in my life who routinely refer to my CRXs as "deathtraps" are people I regard as idiots when it comes to things automotive. These are people who will argue with you 'til they're blue in the face that a Ford pickup or a mammoth SUV is "safer" than a CRX (despite rollover statistics that point quite to the contrary), despite the fact that said truck/SUV didn't have to pass near as rigorous a battery of crash-testing as the CRX did, and despite the fact that there ARE no national records of "near misses" - simply put, there's no list of which cars are better at NOT BEING IN THE ACCIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE! How do you measure the severity of the accident you were never in? I call being able to avoid the accident the first line of defense, and refer to it as "active safety measures", as opposed to seatbelts and airbags, which are PASSIVE safety measures. As such, my CRXs keep me out of serious accidents on a near-regular basis - accidents that my Dodge Ram pickup would never be able to avoid without causing a larger accident! I feel infinitely safer in my CRXs than I do in the pickup, because I know I have a fighting chance to not BE in the wreck first and foremost, surviving the wreck is only a concern if you can't avoid being in it; my '91 Integra kept me quite intact when it was totalled by a car caving in the driver's side. It pushed the body just behind the door in about 30", my head shattered the side window, and I had a stiff neck for about a week, but I suffered not a scratch. I offer this because structurally, the 2G Integra is very similar to the 2G CRX.
If you're convinced that your CRX is a death trap in its stock form, please sell it and move on to something safer... like a sportbike.
If you're convinced that it's a deathtrap due to the mods you've made, then you've flat out made the wrong mods. If you removed your seatbelts and swapped in race harnesses that are anchored to nothing more substantial than chassis sheetmetal, you're an idiot. REAL racers use harnesses, yes - but they anchor them in ways and places that make them BETTER than stock for keeping them stationary during an accident. REAL racers don't make "safety mods" based on how they look, but rather on how they work. If it will make the car safer than stock, and up your chances of surviving an accident, it goes in the car. If not, it doesn't. REAL racers realize that a crash isn't a matter of "if", but of "when".
Now, having said all that, I wouldn't say the 1-piece front is inherently more or less safe for a street car. It all comes down to what's under that 1-piece. Have you lightened the frame rails by drilling large holes in them, and gotten rid of the bumper beam and supports? If so, it's less crashworthy than stock. Have you built up a tube frame to reinforce and/or replace the stock front chassis members, bumper beam, and supports? If so, then it's likely MORE crashworthy than stock.
Just my $.02. And worth less than half that.
Mike
I don't get the "these cars are already deathtraps" crap I keep hearing about CRXs. Do you guys really believe that? As far as I know, the cars that were sold in the US had to pass every single US government-mandated crash test that every other new car sold here at the time had to pass. These include rollover, side-impact, frontal, and rear-end crash tests. I'd point out to you that light trucks (which include the Ford F150, Chevy Silverado, and Dodge Ram, some of the best-selling VEHICLES on the planet) and the vast majority of SUVs don't have to meet such rigorous tests, thanks to the trucking lobby.
CRXs met every government mandate that was in place when they were new. If they didn't, they'd never have been sold here. Period. Is it as safe as SOME cars? Probably not, but it's a lot safer than many. As I recall, it actually scored pretty well in private-industry (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety - IIHS, and Consumer Reports, if memory serves) crash testing as well.
The people in my life who routinely refer to my CRXs as "deathtraps" are people I regard as idiots when it comes to things automotive. These are people who will argue with you 'til they're blue in the face that a Ford pickup or a mammoth SUV is "safer" than a CRX (despite rollover statistics that point quite to the contrary), despite the fact that said truck/SUV didn't have to pass near as rigorous a battery of crash-testing as the CRX did, and despite the fact that there ARE no national records of "near misses" - simply put, there's no list of which cars are better at NOT BEING IN THE ACCIDENT IN THE FIRST PLACE! How do you measure the severity of the accident you were never in? I call being able to avoid the accident the first line of defense, and refer to it as "active safety measures", as opposed to seatbelts and airbags, which are PASSIVE safety measures. As such, my CRXs keep me out of serious accidents on a near-regular basis - accidents that my Dodge Ram pickup would never be able to avoid without causing a larger accident! I feel infinitely safer in my CRXs than I do in the pickup, because I know I have a fighting chance to not BE in the wreck first and foremost, surviving the wreck is only a concern if you can't avoid being in it; my '91 Integra kept me quite intact when it was totalled by a car caving in the driver's side. It pushed the body just behind the door in about 30", my head shattered the side window, and I had a stiff neck for about a week, but I suffered not a scratch. I offer this because structurally, the 2G Integra is very similar to the 2G CRX.
If you're convinced that your CRX is a death trap in its stock form, please sell it and move on to something safer... like a sportbike.
If you're convinced that it's a deathtrap due to the mods you've made, then you've flat out made the wrong mods. If you removed your seatbelts and swapped in race harnesses that are anchored to nothing more substantial than chassis sheetmetal, you're an idiot. REAL racers use harnesses, yes - but they anchor them in ways and places that make them BETTER than stock for keeping them stationary during an accident. REAL racers don't make "safety mods" based on how they look, but rather on how they work. If it will make the car safer than stock, and up your chances of surviving an accident, it goes in the car. If not, it doesn't. REAL racers realize that a crash isn't a matter of "if", but of "when".Now, having said all that, I wouldn't say the 1-piece front is inherently more or less safe for a street car. It all comes down to what's under that 1-piece. Have you lightened the frame rails by drilling large holes in them, and gotten rid of the bumper beam and supports? If so, it's less crashworthy than stock. Have you built up a tube frame to reinforce and/or replace the stock front chassis members, bumper beam, and supports? If so, then it's likely MORE crashworthy than stock.
Just my $.02. And worth less than half that.
Mike
LMAO. a truck is safer than a rex though!!! lets do a battle, crash them into eachother at 30 and see what happens.
I don't think the car is a death trap but I don't trust it to save my life either. so **** it I'll take a chance with a 1 piece front end. I trust my 04 civic over my 91 civic. in 14 years safety has come a long way
I don't think the car is a death trap but I don't trust it to save my life either. so **** it I'll take a chance with a 1 piece front end. I trust my 04 civic over my 91 civic. in 14 years safety has come a long way
CF hood costs almoast as much as the whole front end. **** it go super pimp and do the 1 pice. and just to **** of the EF guys I'll use an integra front end LMFAO
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LMAO. a truck is safer than a rex though!!! lets do a battle, crash them into eachother at 30 and see what happens. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Look up "missing the point entirely". Tell you what, let's do a battle: you TRY to crash your truck into my CRX, and I'll try and dodge you, and we'll see what happens. My guess is you'll be upside down in the ditch while I drive happily away.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think the car is a death trap but I don't trust it to save my life either. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No, I don't trust my car to save my life, either. I trust my wits to do that. I trust my car to be able to offer SOME measure of safety in the worst-case scenario, and to not impale me on the steering column, a la James Dean.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I trust my 04 civic over my 91 civic. in 14 years safety has come a long way</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well... yeah. And I'd trust my '91 Civic over a '49 Nash, too. Safety HAS come a long way. BTW, what's that '04 Civic weigh, anyway? 2800 lbs? Seems weight has come a long way, too, when a "compact" car weighs what an Accord used to...
My POINT was that a light, nimble car offers a unique safety aspect in and of itself, which might be more beneficial than all the airbags in the world: It has the ability, when piloted by an alert and even semi-decent driver, to AVOID accidents instead of merely SURVIVING them. Tell me, would you rather be hit by semi in your truck, but survive, or not be hit at all?
Mike
Look up "missing the point entirely". Tell you what, let's do a battle: you TRY to crash your truck into my CRX, and I'll try and dodge you, and we'll see what happens. My guess is you'll be upside down in the ditch while I drive happily away.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think the car is a death trap but I don't trust it to save my life either. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No, I don't trust my car to save my life, either. I trust my wits to do that. I trust my car to be able to offer SOME measure of safety in the worst-case scenario, and to not impale me on the steering column, a la James Dean.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I trust my 04 civic over my 91 civic. in 14 years safety has come a long way</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well... yeah. And I'd trust my '91 Civic over a '49 Nash, too. Safety HAS come a long way. BTW, what's that '04 Civic weigh, anyway? 2800 lbs? Seems weight has come a long way, too, when a "compact" car weighs what an Accord used to...
My POINT was that a light, nimble car offers a unique safety aspect in and of itself, which might be more beneficial than all the airbags in the world: It has the ability, when piloted by an alert and even semi-decent driver, to AVOID accidents instead of merely SURVIVING them. Tell me, would you rather be hit by semi in your truck, but survive, or not be hit at all?
Mike
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Look up "missing the point entirely". Tell you what, let's do a battle: you TRY to crash your truck into my CRX, and I'll try and dodge you, and we'll see what happens. My guess is you'll be upside down in the ditch while I drive happily away.
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Thats not fair LOL. You got me a CRX or MY HB will out handle a lot of car. especially with all the suspension mods we do. I love my car cus it's just like the go karts i used to race.
I dunno what my 04 EX weighs. But it is the size of a 91 2door accord. compact cars arn't that compact anymore.
Look up "missing the point entirely". Tell you what, let's do a battle: you TRY to crash your truck into my CRX, and I'll try and dodge you, and we'll see what happens. My guess is you'll be upside down in the ditch while I drive happily away.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thats not fair LOL. You got me a CRX or MY HB will out handle a lot of car. especially with all the suspension mods we do. I love my car cus it's just like the go karts i used to race.
I dunno what my 04 EX weighs. But it is the size of a 91 2door accord. compact cars arn't that compact anymore.
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more pics and specs
http://www.speedmachineperform...g_crx</TD></TR></TABLE>
I remember that car, very clean rex. Props to the owner.

more pics and specs
http://www.speedmachineperform...g_crx</TD></TR></TABLE>
I remember that car, very clean rex. Props to the owner.



