Hey guys, im new here so first off I want to say hi. I know this is a dumb topic but I really want to know your guys thoughts. Secondly, I was wondering if you could help me with a little dilema.. I am receving a 1999 Integra Ls from my father in 2 weeks. It pulls really strong for an Ls stock(my father was the second owner and we bought it from an Acura dealership(Beaudry acura of tucson, my father does some contractual work for them)) we think that someone might of slipped some hot cams in it. Well anyway on to my question. I am also receving $6000 dollors to do whatever I want to do to the integra. So here is my question, I have been doing alot of research and I came up with three "packages".


Package 1:
B18C-R OBD2 98+ Spec Motor Swap (LSD) from password jdm, Stage 3 $5149
and put some new(er) seats in it. I really want to put in the ITR suede interior...

Second Package:
15in Volks Te's (new)
Drag Turbo Kit + Misc stuff
Some suede interior..


Third Package: (My fav)
K20A Type R Motor Swap (LSD) $5399 Shipping $250
Hasport Mount Kit (street) $575.28
I know this is a little over but I can get the Folks to help out

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StockholmGt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys, im new here so first off I want to say hi. I know this is a dumb topic but I really want to know your guys thoughts. Secondly, I was wondering if you could help me with a little dilema.. I am receving a 1999 Integra Ls from my father in 2 weeks. It pulls really strong for an Ls stock(my father was the second owner and we bought it from an Acura dealership(Beaudry acura of tucson, my father does some contractual work for them)) we think that someone might of slipped some hot cams in it. Well anyway on to my question. I am also receving $6000 dollors to do whatever I want to do to the integra. So here is my question, I have been doing alot of research and I came up with three "packages".


Package 1:
B18C-R OBD2 98+ Spec Motor Swap (LSD) from password jdm, Stage 3 $5149
and put some new(er) seats in it. I really want to put in the ITR suede interior...

Second Package:
15in Volks Te's (new)
Drag Turbo Kit + Misc stuff
Some suede interior..


Third Package: (My fav)
K20A Type R Motor Swap (LSD) $5399 Shipping $250
Hasport Mount Kit (street) $575.28
I know this is a little over but I can get the Folks to help out

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Sell the LS, get a GSR (manual), turbo it. Say hello to 300 WHP. Especially consider this if your car is automatic (hope not!)

2nd bet would be the K20, it's a lot stronger than B series. That swap is starting to get popular. You don't "really" need the R version..

-Chris

 

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Sell the LS, get a GSR (manual), turbo it. Say hello to 300 WHP. Especially consider this if your car is automatic (hope not!)

2nd bet would be the K20, it's a lot stronger than B series. That swap is starting to get popular. You don't "really" need the R version..

-Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hell no 5 speed all the way baby . Thanks for the input Chris, I was looking at the Itr k20 because of the different ratios and Lsd, but those are probaly just monday details. Thanks again for the info.

 

wow, i did not know that people are doing k20 now? new to hondas myself

 

you'll need alot more than that for the k20 swap. go to the hasport site. They go through it all. Don't get me wrong, I think thats a great option. Thats what I want to do with my GSR. If I were you I'd sell the LS, buy a EG and then drop the K20!

 

I say turbo what you have now. Piece together a nice turbo kit, and build up the internals.

BTW, do you plan on doing the work yourself?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wannaTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you'll need alot more than that for the k20 swap. go to the hasport site. They go through it all. Don't get me wrong, I think thats a great option. Thats what I want to do with my GSR. If I were you I'd sell the LS, buy a EG and then drop the K20!</TD></TR></TABLE>

My father is making me keep the Ls(im 16) ... but yeah that is a good dream...


And yes, I do plan on building it myself no matter what. Maybe the turbo... take awile longer.. but its probaly worth it..


For WannaType-r: Im currently living in Ahwtukee(I cant respond to ims)




Modified by StockholmGt at 10:58 PM 1/11/2005

 

Hey it's all good, it's a free car. I personally don't like turbo'd Hondas because I just LOVE all motor applications. However as many people can tell you and you probably know, LS turbo can be VERY powerful! No matter what you do good luck. If I had your chance, I'd do the K20A swap too, even if you have to save a little more to complete the swap (axles, ECU, fuel rail, mounts, etc) GOOD LUCK!

 

biult block and turbo that beeatch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

GO K20....it's all about k-series now a days....forget about turboing the car. everyone does it...do something different....K20

 

Well yea doing something different might be cool but it also may not be in your budget. I say build what you have and turbo it will be faster than any stock K20. Than again if you have more money to build the K20 and turbo that, then go for it. It is all about what you can afford. No matter what you decide you will be satisfied with your integra. Just go with what you want most.

 

I'm not to sure if a turbo LS would beat a K20a swap, I really doubt it.

 

For WannaType-r: Im currently living in Ahwtukee(I cant respond to ims)


Well.. I found out today im getting 10 grand plus the car so that opens it up alot..

 

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are you kidding?

anyway...
Turbo the LS. for the money, no better bet. Get a good kit, or as someone pointed out, piece together a good kit, depending on mileage maybe rebuild the stock engine (with the extra money you got, you can slip in some pistons...)

Personally, If I was in your situation, I'd tear down the block, get a set of pistons with new rings, find an ITR crank, some ITR rods, get new bearings, a new headgasket (obviously) some head studs, and a new oil pump.

Chip/uberdata (maybe Hondata, but $$$) Then turbo that beotch...

like I said, that's just what I'd do...
-Mike

edit- just saw you're getting 10k.
if you have to keep the LS-... get a sleeved block, build an engine from scratch and turbo. there you go... 84mm bore ITR/GSR... done.

 

there is no question what to do if you are getting the 10k. T..u...r..b...o... the **** !! A turbo will give you the biggest kick in the pants. ohh and, HONDATA!

 

turbo it

 

I say save the money and keep the car stock untill you become a "better" driver (not saying that you are a bad driver now). Personally, I do not think there is any reason why a 16 year old should be driving around in a 300+hp car. I would wait till you mature a little, then go for the swap or turbo, say, a year down the road. Or, if you want to spend the cash now, I would do a nice suspension setup along with some Volk's. Just my opinion. Good luck either way brotha.

 

5 grand for a JDM type r motor? you can buy a whole front clip for that price..the price of them are coming down cuz of the K series swappings

 

personally, i think the k20 is a waist of money. my cousin has a 98 jdm b18c1 in his gsr with an aem intake, apexi dunk exhaust, aem fuel rail, act 6puck disc clutch, act prolite fly. my buddy tyler has a rsx type-s with intake, header, exhaust, same clutch and same fly as my cousin.

they were doing a roll from twenty and they stayed side by side until 110 where my cousin actually started pulling on him. not seriously hard but wuz pulling on him.

second run from 80: they jumped at exactly the same time and my cousin started pulling on him again..

personally i would be kind of embarassed if i payed 5k for a k20 and got beat by a b18c1... just my $.2

 

k20 in an integra has some potential.. what youre basing the k series motor on was in an RSX, which is pretty heavy..read up on some dyno #'s and track times and youd be more than impressed

 

Id go boost, build the motor and hondata and then set some cash aside for when **** gose wrong becuase its bound to happen. But what about suspension and everything else. cant just build the motor... thats no fun... goodluck with the car

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i luv my 97 teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say save the money and keep the car stock untill you become a "better" driver (not saying that you are a bad driver now). Personally, I do not think there is any reason why a 16 year old should be driving around in a 300+hp car. I would wait till you mature a little, then go for the swap or turbo, say, a year down the road. Or, if you want to spend the cash now, I would do a nice suspension setup along with some Volk's. Just my opinion. Good luck either way brotha. </TD></TR></TABLE>'

Couldnt agree more. Use some of the money to go to racing school. My friend got this "NASCAR" thing for my b-day where i get to go drive an actual nascar racer. It scared the hell out of me. I hit about 175 or so, it was sick. Learn to drive your car, shift points, etc. Then add the mods. I say buy the wheels, suspension, then make it go fast, then keep the money for a rainy day, dont blow it all. Custom setups most always need attention.

 

thats pretty cheap for a k20. does that include installing... my friend at epic motoring installed a k20 into an EG and it cost around 12k... personally i'd go b18c5... don't forget to add installation, unless you and your dad are gonna do it.

 

Personally I would say to just turbo it. Yeah you could do the internals but thats a lot more work you probably don't want to do yet. Wait till your more serious for that. Id say just do what my brother did on his 97 teg ls. He put a t3/t4 turbo on and for just a few grand had 240 whp. Use the rest for rims and whatever else you like. 240 whp is prenty too, we had a lot of fun with american muscle like the z28's and t/a's on the streets (his car was a sleeper) and gave a lot of people bright red faces. Oh and by the way, make sure you save like 500+ for a good alarm, Im not sure where you live (im in MN) but my bros car got stolen and he certainly didnt get all the money back.

 

btw the ls motor is very safe w/o the vtech if you turbo and has lots of torque