Helo.. After seeing a large amount of topics relacioned with te REAR sway bar i noticed something really scary, at leat for me.. I have an EG6 EDM (my second), with 21 and 15mm ft and rear sways (from fabric-OEM). My rear sway was not tightened up after coming from the garagem so it got loose. So, I am driving without rear sway.

WHAT HAPPENS drinving like this? Well, my car UNDERSTEER a lot but the rear that cause this one year ago:



is completely sticky to the ground. So.. i was going to put the rear sway of the DC-2 22mm to make the care more secure, it seems that what will happen if i put the rear sway of 22mm is the car will UNDERSTEER much less, but if i accidentely loose the gas the car will abruptally OVERSTEER, isn't it??

 

wow!! you're lucky to be alive.

 

thats a huuuuuuuuuge pic

 

Dont drive like an idiot on public streets and you really shouldnt have to worry about it.

My 98 EX came w/o a rear sway bar and I've managed to not crash my car due to understeer or throttle lift oversteer. And I bet all the other people that drive the 75-90% ?? of Civics without rear sways have managed to not crash their car due to the lack of a rear sway as well.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont drive like an idiot on public streets and you really shouldnt have to worry about it.

My 98 EX came w/o a rear sway bar and I've managed to not crash my car due to understeer or throttle lift oversteer. And I bet all the other people that drive the 75-90% ?? of Civics without rear sways have managed to not crash their car due to the lack of a rear sway as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you can count me in on that

 

Stunna driving, i.e. early apexing a corner at a way-too-high entry speed, will cause plenty of understeer.

Stunna driving, i.e. Overcooking a corner, panicking, lifting from the throttle and/or braking, will oversteer you into oblivion.

 

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agreed...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont drive like an idiot on public streets and you really shouldnt have to worry about it.

My 98 EX came w/o a rear sway bar and I've managed to not crash my car due to understeer or throttle lift oversteer. And I bet all the other people that drive the 75-90% ?? of Civics without rear sways have managed to not crash their car due to the lack of a rear sway as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ditto

 

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it looks sad with that b motor laying like that in the pic.

 

Well jlcaboy82:
1-i am very sorry in deed of your incapability to understand english, with what i've learn in 5 years in High school i can read by my words that NOW i don't have the rear sway (and the time of the accident i HAD it) and the car is much more secure and the rear doesn't slides like it used to be.

2- speaking about my accident, where you there or you saw what happend? I don't remember of growing up with you so please don't talk to me in thad modes (idiot )

3- Sorry, do I see you have an AEM? what for, please don't drive like an idiot..

Is there anynody that can disccuss this TECHINCAL issue with me, arguing and showing differente points of view please?
The issue is: with a larger diamater rear sway the car understeer less, but does it oversteere more? (at the same apeed)..
Thank you

PS-like somebody mencioned, sorry about the size of the picture.

 

yeah yo no comprendo

 

handa: The motor was saved and is now running.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ADN_pt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is there anynody that can disccuss this TECHINCAL issue with me, arguing and showing differente points of view please?
The issue is: with a larger diamater rear sway the car understeer less, but does it oversteere more? (at the same apeed)..
Thank you

PS-like somebody mencioned, sorry about the size of the picture. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Understeering less is the same as oversteering more. And yes, a larger sway bar and/or stiffer rear spring rates will cause more oversteer. Try using the search, its recommended.

 

i thought my wreck was bad....thats bout on of the worst wrecked cars ive ever seen.....well besides a tundra that ran straight into a pole and the motor was pushed back into the cab and killed both the driver and passenger, it was jacked up the motor was where a center console would be on a civic...it was bad

 

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Understeering less is the same as oversteering more. And yes, a larger sway bar and/or stiffer rear spring rates will cause more oversteer. Try using the search, its recommended.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry but i guess this information is uncorrect. A car can understeer a lot like an EG6 and oversteer a lot too. You can reduce one thing without changing the other. About the "search" as i said, i read i lot about sways in the forum but i haven't found any topic explaining this deeply. I also wanted to share my episode of riding without the rear sway, because i can see in this forum lots of people putting the rear sway only (without geting a front sway too) and making the car more accurate in the apex, but very unsecure and not forguiving any mistakes by the driver..

jlacoy82: Did i catch you in a bad day? because i don't understand where all that agressivety comes from.I am here to learn and to share not to fight or hear insults.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ADN_pt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sorry but i guess this information is uncorrect. A car can understeer a lot like an EG6 and oversteer a lot too. You can reduce one thing without changing the other. About the "search" as i said, i read i lot about sways in the forum but i haven't found any topic explaining this deeply. I also wanted to share my episode of riding without the rear sway, because i can see in this forum lots of people putting the rear sway only (without geting a front sway too) and making the car more accurate in the apex, but very unsecure and not forguiving any mistakes by the driver..

jlacoy82: Did i catch you in a bad day? because i don't understand where all that agressivety comes from.I am here to learn and to share not to fight or hear insults.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Negative. You cannot increase oversteer and understeer at the same time. Its a push pull situation.. You remove one in order to gain the other. Period.

 

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Negative. You cannot increase oversteer and understeer at the same time. Its a push pull situation.. You remove one in order to gain the other. Period.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Roger that

 

LMAO newbies....

 

Not to be mean but please tell me you don't live in the U.S. If you cant type or make complete sentences you probably cant drive either. Last time I checked high school doesn't take 5 years to complete. The search button is usually your friend on this site but I think the spell check might be your new friend ADN_pt.

 

if you're driving on the streets you should never encounter this problem since you're obeying all laws and recommended speeds... because its safer for you and other people

but... i do enjoy the understeer and throttle-lift oversteer for autocross...

 

damn looks like your car beat you up! lol how can you blame the rear sway, lol..

 

Thank god he's 04.

 

My 97 1.6EL came with an OEM rear swaybar. The links were broken on both sides when I bought it, so it was basically like I had NO rear swaybar. I noticed some understeer before I fixed it. I put some new links on last week, and the difference in handling is like night and day! It's almost like the car wants to stay glued to the road now, still some understeer but not as much as before.

 

now i curious, what happen? Was it your fault?

 

whoa buddy..

 

Lisboa : Lissabon, Portugal?

Looks like a big bang, bigger rear sway decreases understeer and promotes a little more oversteer, but higher cornerspeed, which in your case might not be a great idea