what the topic said

 

No.

chris - who thinks a tie bar is not a bar worth having anyways. Sway bars and strut bars are enough.

 

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chris - who thinks a tie bar is not a bar worth having anyways. Sway bars and strut bars are enough.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Out of pure and innocent curiosity, why do you think they are not worth having?

Aloha,
Brandon

 

i want to know why you think so too


Modified by HmgLauj69 at 4:49 PM 1/11/2005

 

Yes they do. My 96spec JDM ITR has one and its similar build/construction etc to the rear lower bar.

 

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i need one that will clear jdm 4-1 header

 

will a cusco lower tiebar clear with a jdm 4-1?

 

Anyone have pics of it on the car?

 

has anyone got a front lower tie bar?

and also what your impressions of it is? as in a noticible difference?(at least a small one)

thx in advance

 

i noticed a great deal of difference. steering is easier, especially at higher speeds.

but i need to know if it will clear jdm itr 4-1!

 

i know that the nuespeed does not

 

up

 

10 years ago when I bought a set of Spoons F & R tie bar for my Delsol,
I didn't know front bar can make the car understeer if set up wrong.
I installed it on a lift and stupid me tighten the bar's end fitting by pre loading it in the air. When the car is on the ground, it was over preload and every slow corner I took,
it understeer like crazy. Finally I realized that I have to loosen the end fitting and then rock the suspension to make it settle on the ground and then finally lock up the
end fitting. Now the Front is nice and solid thru turns.
OF course this in experience in a Delsol so the bars were very effective.
In our solid R's, I don't know it will have big benefit.

 

If you want, a lesser thought of idea is the to Z10 bar. With the radius rods tightened correctly my teg had an UNBELIEVEABLE feel with the front feeling so much more stable than ever. The turn in was amazing and understeer was reduced a strangely large amount over before. It is awesome since it clears everything and ties each side of the unibody together outside of the core. Putting that stiff feeling to the one part of the DC2 chassis that is lacking it. IMHO

 

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i need one that will clear jdm 4-1 header</TD></TR></TABLE>

the bar on my car is an OE item, it is an like a wide 'n' shape (sort of like this _/''''''''\_ ) and sits above the header pipe (and no i'm not talking about the front sway/anti-roll bar) This is a aluminium round bar with flattened ends (like the rear bar) I will try and get a photo of it, but you can only see the end of it by looking down the timing belt side of the engine...you have to physically look for it when underneath the car, as its not readily noticeable.

 

perdy dern stiff, I thought. i'd like to see/know what OEM lower front tie bar l00x like.

 

Yeah, JDM Type R's do come with a front tie bar, sorry bout the **** pic, but heres basically what it looks like,

Its the Black bar, its sortov a _/''''''''\_ like mugen racer said



And this..


Is fron the top looking down past the intake manifold. The two bolts next to each other like this.. O O is the tie bar. Also like mugenracer said
Hope that helps.

 

i have one of those fron t tie bars on my stock 94 ls 4door...

is it aftermearket or did they come stock

 

dude all integras have that black bar. It ain't nothing special man.

 

I think the bar you are all looking for is upfront by the radiator, but it is only on the JDM R.

It's not exactly a tie-bar IIRC, being as it doesn't really connect the front suspension components.. just pieces of the chassis, it's similar to our in-trunk bar.

I believe it is shown on the Best Motoring Type R DVD.

 

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lol.. my bad. Thats what someone pointed out to me when i asked where it was too. Stu00pid n00bs hehe

Ill keep searching

 

better view of what it looks like... havent had time to put it on yet.

 

so a clean version of my pics? Or is it different again?
After being under the car for the 2nd id say what i can see is exactly the same as the pic above. Im lost

 

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better view of what it looks like... havent had time to put it on yet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

is that oem? where does it bolt to? seems like it doesn't bolt onto the pivot point of the lca(s) where front tie bars go

 

no it bolts down on the engine subframe (i think thats what its called) doesnt go on the lca at all.. i put photos up so you/other could get a better view of the whole thing not installed in the car.. and the photos above show it on the car..