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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Im trying to change my axles out and can not get the axle nut to give for anything.Ive got an impact thats supposed to be rated at 500lbs and I cant get it off. I tried a breaker bar with 4ft pipe on the end of it and ended up breaking it. Ive unsteaked the nut and I dont see how none of these things has worked. Its not reverse threaded or anything is it? Im about to just give up and take it somewhere and pay for them to break them loose for me. Im just wanting any comments anyone has on this and if anyone has taken it somewhere to have them broken what they were charged.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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i soaked it with wd-40. then use a ½" wrench and the top pipe of my 3 ton jack.

this is with the wheel still on the car and on the ground.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Thanks for the reply, like I said I gave that a spin and the wrench ended up breaking. I just dont see why its on there so good.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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you could try heating it up first, then use the long breaker.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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What size drive was the breaker bar that you broke? I've never had a problem using a 1/2" drive breaker bar with the 1/2" drive 33mm (or whatever) sized socket. If it was the 1/2" drive that broke on you, get a 3/4" drive bar and socket. That would not break.

Do it all with the wheel on the car. Also try applying a little heat and jumping on the breaker bar. Using the above method, I have never run into a CV nut that I couldn't break loose.

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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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ive seen plenty of pics on here with people breaking their 1/2 breaker on that axle nut.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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I did it with a 1/2. I used a propane torch( I know its not that hot but it was around the house) and put it on quickly and hoped on it a few times. Heared a creek and got excited in the hopes that something was moving only to find a half second later it was the breaker bar.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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ok get wd-40 like the dude earlier said, spray it all over, take it for a drive around to just about the axle and the nut to warm up (dont get it hot), and make you snap out the metal that lock on the axle? gl
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Do you have access to any 3/4 inch drive tools?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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are you sure you have enough air pressure going to the impact gun? Mine axles nuts came of like nothing with a 1/2" gun.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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My trick with any nut that won't come off is to heat the nut itself up good with the good old handy propane torch. When it's nice and hot, take the flame away and soak the threads in penetrating lube or wd40, then quickly take the breaker bar to it with all force.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 02:34 AM
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get a longer bar, more leverage.

I have a 21" breaker bar and one time I had to put a 6 foot pipe on the end and stand at the other end with a friend keeping the bar centered on the bolt to bust that bitch loose.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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I broke 2. A 1/2" impact gun took it off in a matter of seconds.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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why break expensive tools when you can get a dremel and cut it off. D and B series all share the same size axle nut. you can find one for free from the junk yard
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwnthehatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I broke 2. A 1/2" impact gun took it off in a matter of seconds.</TD></TR></TABLE>

on the same topic of bitch *** bolts, and nuts.. once i couldn't get a crank pully bolt out, i broke a 1/2 breaker bar also.. ended up getting no where with a 1/2 drive impact..

so i had to result in using a 3/4 drive.. hahaha, you should of seen the socket.. it barley fit in the crank pully hole.. lol
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwnthehatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I broke 2. A 1/2" impact gun took it off in a matter of seconds.</TD></TR></TABLE>

looks like you need to start using craftsman tools...jk but i do know that those "durabuilts" are horrible i broke all 3 of my wrenches on lugnuts lol
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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You did try putting the wheel on and lowering the car off the jack stands back onto the ground? I would take a hammer to it one or twice, you are going to be replacing everything anyway. Get a good breaker bar, one that if you break it will be replaced for free. Good luck.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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you just need two people and some muscle
what is the bitch is the ball joint that I can't seem to get off for anything
ARGH
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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I put it all back together and put the rim on without the centercap.
I went down the raod to big ten tires, and had them hit it withthe impact gun
we then tightened it up (not too tight), and I drove home where I took it off and finished.
Didn't cost a dime.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonek9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a good breaker bar, one that if you break it will be replaced for free. Good luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yay Craftsman tools!!
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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I broke numerous craftsman breaker bars and ratchets and ended up using a 3/4 inch drive snap on ratchet that was about 4 feet long. Took it right off.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CycloneBlue_1.6EL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yay Craftsman tools!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Crapsman wouldn't be my first choice!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JBG’s Ferio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3/4 inch drive snap on ratchet that was about 4 feet long. Took it right off.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now we are talking about tools!
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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Put the tire back on and have someone step on the brakes. Use the 3/4 breaker bar and also use a hollow metal fence pole (3" in diameter and about 6' tall). Slide the breaker bar into the metal fence pole and turn while apply brake pressure. It will loosen without any problems.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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710 ft-lb impact didn't work this weekend. Neither did a 4 foot cheater bar.

I ended up grinding the top corner of the nut off, then got it off with an impact. Replaced it with an new nut and all is good.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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I had the impact at about 95psi. Yeah every time I tried, I had the car on the ground with the brakes on and the centercaps off and the tire still on. Thanks for all the replies guys.
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