i have some questions about going turbo with my car. i have a '92 hatch dx w/ a d16z6 motor in it. i know whut you b-series guys are thinking but hey funds are limited. so back to my question. i was wondering if i should buy a turbo kit or should i just buy it piece by piece? can anyone tell me the parts that i would need exactly to build a turbo kit for my car. any help and info would help me out.....

 

well it really all depends, bolt on turbo kits can get pretty pricey, but piecing it together is the way to go if you know what u are doing, how experienced are you?

 

well to bot bullshit i am not very experienced at all. i have a very good shop that can do the work so if i get everything that i need they can do it with no problem

 

if you're having a shop do it for you, you could piece it together and have them install it for you. that's if the shop is reputable that is. research, research, and more research before you buy anything is what i'd suggest.

 

well tuning is the key when it comes to turboing a car, I would consider myself in the novice level when it comes to engines, but turbos I am a beginner as well. I am looking to turbo my car here in the next year or so, and have been talking to built b16A about fuel maps and what not and man, it was like he was running circles around me cuz I was so confused, but as for basic parts you will need for for the kit...as for one ofcourse, the turbo, inter cooler..FMIC or SMIC, charge pipes, down pipe, wastegate, BOV, turbo manifold oil return lines and other misc. parts, pm built b16A here on h-t about it, he knows alot more than I do. hope this helps.

 

i know. and they are really good. they have built alot of very fast and reliable cars. but i still need to know exactly whut parts i need. lol

 

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...and when you think you know enough....research some more

 

thats whut i needed thanks. so as far as fuel should i invest in a AFC to??

 

after talking with built b16a, he has sold me on the EMS..i.e. Hondata, Uberdata, and so forth. He has basically told me that the AFC does everything for the fuel, and is great to have, but does nothing for your timing, and the EMS does everything you tell it to do, so you can get Hondata and have a tuner tune it for you, or you can get Uberdata, which is free, and tune it yourself, but you said you were a beginner, so I'll take that you want no part of Uberdata

 

so if i have Hondata should i get a AFC anyway? or can the hondata control the fuel as well? and how about ignition..

 

hondata will control the fuel, if it is tuned to perfection, there should be no reason to change the fuel unless you increase the amoutn of boost, like I said, I am no expert, you will probably get more in depth answers in the forced inductuon forum....sorry I couldnt be more help

 

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hondata can tune anything that your AFC wish it could. hondata can tune fuel maps, ignition maps, vtec crossovers, launch control, fuel and ignition maps for after vtec crosses over, and so much more.

 

1st time around i would just buy a kit, you learn so much and you have a little bit of a garauntee.

 

http://www.homemadeturbo.com

 

ya i would say pic up a greddy kit and get a BOVand intercooler, and go from there, its gunna cost you around 2000 bucks if you go that route but you get a warranty and you will know you have everypart you need. And since you said you are on a budget, go with uberdata, its just as good as Hondata but its free

 

buy a used kit, it will save you money and already include what you need. hondata is expensive and the hack sucks. if you do decide to use uberdata, pm me i can help you. what shop would be doing all this for you?


oh yea, check out this site, http://www.turbod16.com

 

hondata maybe be pricey, but it is worth the money especially if you have someone tuning it for you, like I am going to do

 

but why pay someone to tune your car when you can do it yourself, w/ a free program that does everything hondata does?

 

my brother pieced together his turbo on his d-series motor. With alittle tuning from the Hondata. He making about 193whp and 164wtq with about 6.5psi. So far so good I guess. He wasnt very experienced in turbos but he did do alot of researching to make sure his build didnt have any problems

 

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Because I am clueless when it comes to tuning, I am working on it, but for the first time around I might go hondaata and then the second car I boost, i tune myself

 

its really not hard at all to use, if you want to datalog it costs you 10 bucks unlike hondata, but i guess if you dont want to learn how to tune...

 

Uberdata is the way you should go for a FMU

 

what are you talking about??? you can adjust the duty cycle of your injectors so there is no need for an fmu, and if you get larger injectors from like a dsm you can just put in the cc size of the injector and it automatically adjusts the fuel curves...

 

If you want nothing to do with tuning your engine, I would say go with hondata and have a shop tune it. Most shops that have hondata won't tune uberdata. Go figure. So if you are a DIYer, do uberdata, if you are a guy that just wants someone to do it for him, get hondata. Don't even think about afc or FMU, if you are over 5psi.

OH yea, there is a forced induction forum on here for a reason. Check it out. Also check my setup in my sig. The first link

 

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Fuel Management Unit buddy

Kinda silly to assume i'm talking about a boost dependent fuel pressure regulator when i say FMU.