A question about changing your intake cam?
Hello there i drive a jdm integra type r with the following mods:
J's Racing n1 ecu, J's Racing exhaust system, J's Racing 4-2-1 manifold, J's Racing de-cat pipe, J's Racing engine damper, J's Racing front and rear strut braces,J's Racing c-pillar bar, Spoon drop in filter, Ngk leads and Denzo plugs, Mugen thermostat, Mugen fan switch, Cusco oil catch tank, ORC racing clutch and lightened flywheel, 4.9 Final gear, Apexi D1 rsm, Momo tuner steering wheel.
and i was told that if i upgraded my intake cam to a spoon cam and leave my itr exhaust cam standard and change my cam pulleys to adjustable one's and adjust them slightly that i could get more power is this true.
J's Racing n1 ecu, J's Racing exhaust system, J's Racing 4-2-1 manifold, J's Racing de-cat pipe, J's Racing engine damper, J's Racing front and rear strut braces,J's Racing c-pillar bar, Spoon drop in filter, Ngk leads and Denzo plugs, Mugen thermostat, Mugen fan switch, Cusco oil catch tank, ORC racing clutch and lightened flywheel, 4.9 Final gear, Apexi D1 rsm, Momo tuner steering wheel.
and i was told that if i upgraded my intake cam to a spoon cam and leave my itr exhaust cam standard and change my cam pulleys to adjustable one's and adjust them slightly that i could get more power is this true.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integratyper200 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your a ******* ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>
uh huh.......look at the question you asked then you will see who the **** is......
i guess i should have said what everyone else will tell you......do a search newb
uh huh.......look at the question you asked then you will see who the **** is......
i guess i should have said what everyone else will tell you......do a search newb
This is a great forum with lots of nice people on it who are very informative.
Ya right you two are both dick heads.
I come on here looking for advice and i get slated for asking a question.
and bbasso whats this quote all about "If you feel that you need a trust worthy opinion and some one who will take the bull by the horns I'm your guy" ya right do you think i would trust your opinion you ******* american ****.
And *** for the little canadian ****** i would love to meet you face to face and i would kick your little french english what ever the **** you are i would **** you up.
Is this the way you treat all new people on the forum if it is good look to the two of you.
Ya right you two are both dick heads.
I come on here looking for advice and i get slated for asking a question.
and bbasso whats this quote all about "If you feel that you need a trust worthy opinion and some one who will take the bull by the horns I'm your guy" ya right do you think i would trust your opinion you ******* american ****.
And *** for the little canadian ****** i would love to meet you face to face and i would kick your little french english what ever the **** you are i would **** you up.
Is this the way you treat all new people on the forum if it is good look to the two of you.
The way you listed all your mods there seems as though you are trying to show off or something. You'd think that for a car with those mods, the driver would know a thing or two. A lot of the stuff on your mods list won't have an effect on the question you are asking.
To answer your question, it is possible to gain or lose power with what you are proposing, it all depends on the tuning.
To answer your question, it is possible to gain or lose power with what you are proposing, it all depends on the tuning.
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Jesus, what is up with this place recently...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should ask J's about that since you so far up their ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Jesus, what is up with this place recently...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integratyper200 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was told that if i upgraded my intake cam to a spoon cam and leave my itr exhaust cam standard and change my cam pulleys to adjustable one's and adjust them slightly that i could get more power is this true.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you may gain or loose power depending on the cam gear settings and the adjustability of the n1 ecu. if the ecu is non-adjustable.... you might not gain muchat all, and might loose power. try the cam pulleys at first and see if you have any gains (on a dyno).
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you may gain or loose power depending on the cam gear settings and the adjustability of the n1 ecu. if the ecu is non-adjustable.... you might not gain muchat all, and might loose power. try the cam pulleys at first and see if you have any gains (on a dyno).
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Irish beer = good
Thanks six pak i didnt mean to sound like bosting i just have all my mods in one list and instead of re typing them i just copy and past.
and ya i have a fair share of mods but there all bolt on and anybody knows what the parts i have got do. I have to say myself that i dont know much when it comes to changing cams and stuff like that. i was just told that it might give a bit more power. and things like valves, spring etc wouldnt need to be chaged maybe just upgrade my fuel pressure reg. But then i was told by someone else in another forum this could cause the engine to run lean. so i dont know really what to do. another thing is i have just got the j's ecu and if i changed both my cams would the ecu i have be good enough to run them or would i have to upgrade to a programmable ecu which i dont really want to do. Also if ayone is interested in answering this question would an upgraded trottle body be any use?
and ya i have a fair share of mods but there all bolt on and anybody knows what the parts i have got do. I have to say myself that i dont know much when it comes to changing cams and stuff like that. i was just told that it might give a bit more power. and things like valves, spring etc wouldnt need to be chaged maybe just upgrade my fuel pressure reg. But then i was told by someone else in another forum this could cause the engine to run lean. so i dont know really what to do. another thing is i have just got the j's ecu and if i changed both my cams would the ecu i have be good enough to run them or would i have to upgrade to a programmable ecu which i dont really want to do. Also if ayone is interested in answering this question would an upgraded trottle body be any use?
good point flux i dont normally abuse people in forums but i was simply asking a question and thats the crap i got back.
oh and irish beer is the best.
oh and irish beer is the best.
What you should do is ditch the J's ecu and get a stand alone ecu. Get those spoon cams along with spoon cam gears and get the car tuned.
An upgraded throttle body is not necessary. Getting a FPR is also optional and not very essential.
An upgraded throttle body is not necessary. Getting a FPR is also optional and not very essential.
First question is,,, if you're not from the US then why haven't you posted in this thread yet:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1106140
We'd love to see pics of your car, where you're from and whatnot.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integratyper200 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> another thing is i have just got the j's ecu and if i changed both my cams would the ecu i have be good enough to run them or would i have to upgrade to a programmable ecu which i dont really want to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Run them yes. Tune them and Run them to their fullest potential, Not really. You'd do better with a fully programmable/tunable ECU (Hondata, AEM).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integratyper200 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also if ayone is interested in answering this question would an upgraded trottle body be any use?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Throttle body is usually one of the last things to do, if you find you even need it which you may not, if your setup is tuned properly. And for such mild cams as you mentioned, you really won't need to spend the money on a larger TB, stock is usually fine even for a properly tuned hot cammed NA setup.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1106140
We'd love to see pics of your car, where you're from and whatnot.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integratyper200 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> another thing is i have just got the j's ecu and if i changed both my cams would the ecu i have be good enough to run them or would i have to upgrade to a programmable ecu which i dont really want to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Run them yes. Tune them and Run them to their fullest potential, Not really. You'd do better with a fully programmable/tunable ECU (Hondata, AEM).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integratyper200 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also if ayone is interested in answering this question would an upgraded trottle body be any use?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Throttle body is usually one of the last things to do, if you find you even need it which you may not, if your setup is tuned properly. And for such mild cams as you mentioned, you really won't need to spend the money on a larger TB, stock is usually fine even for a properly tuned hot cammed NA setup.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integratyper200 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hello there i drive a jdm integra type r with the following mods:
J's Racing n1 ecu, J's Racing exhaust system, J's Racing 4-2-1 manifold, J's Racing de-cat pipe, J's Racing engine damper, J's Racing front and rear strut braces,J's Racing c-pillar bar, Spoon drop in filter, Ngk leads and Denzo plugs, Mugen thermostat, Mugen fan switch, Cusco oil catch tank, ORC racing clutch and lightened flywheel, 4.9 Final gear, Apexi D1 rsm, Momo tuner steering wheel.
and i was told that if i upgraded my intake cam to a spoon cam and leave my itr exhaust cam standard and change my cam pulleys to adjustable one's and adjust them slightly that i could get more power is this true.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure there is a little power to be found, but if you have already done all of that work, I would think you may want to try some cams that will do a little bit more for you - TODA, etc. You may also want to think about an additional way to tune your car besides just the cam gears.
And yes, lets see some pictures of your car and maybe a little introduction about yourself....
J's Racing n1 ecu, J's Racing exhaust system, J's Racing 4-2-1 manifold, J's Racing de-cat pipe, J's Racing engine damper, J's Racing front and rear strut braces,J's Racing c-pillar bar, Spoon drop in filter, Ngk leads and Denzo plugs, Mugen thermostat, Mugen fan switch, Cusco oil catch tank, ORC racing clutch and lightened flywheel, 4.9 Final gear, Apexi D1 rsm, Momo tuner steering wheel.
and i was told that if i upgraded my intake cam to a spoon cam and leave my itr exhaust cam standard and change my cam pulleys to adjustable one's and adjust them slightly that i could get more power is this true.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure there is a little power to be found, but if you have already done all of that work, I would think you may want to try some cams that will do a little bit more for you - TODA, etc. You may also want to think about an additional way to tune your car besides just the cam gears.
And yes, lets see some pictures of your car and maybe a little introduction about yourself....
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On a light note, yes you will gain some power from tuning your cams, whether it be OEM or Spoon that you choose to run. What kind of power you get is up to your tuner. Also, as stated above, you should get some form of standalone ECU for the best results.
Relax, slick.

On a light note, yes you will gain some power from tuning your cams, whether it be OEM or Spoon that you choose to run. What kind of power you get is up to your tuner. Also, as stated above, you should get some form of standalone ECU for the best results.
Relax, slick.
I dont care how pissed off you get....you can't just say the things that you have! Even if you didn't find the answer you were looking for, that doesnt give you the right to go ape and tell others your gonna "**** them up".
This forum has a wealth of information and probably some of the most knowledable individuals on H-T, do some reading and you'll find your answer if it has not sufficiently been supplied above!
This forum has a wealth of information and probably some of the most knowledable individuals on H-T, do some reading and you'll find your answer if it has not sufficiently been supplied above!
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No ****... those guys need to clean the sand out of their vaginas.
</TD></TR></TABLE>No ****... those guys need to clean the sand out of their vaginas.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integratyper200 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">******* american ****.
And *** for the little canadian ****** i would love to meet you face to face and i would kick your little french english what ever the **** you are i would **** you up.
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Despite what I said , this is grounds for ban. No ifs ands or buts.
and to make sure it's clear... https://honda-tech.com/zerohelp?topic=tos
And *** for the little canadian ****** i would love to meet you face to face and i would kick your little french english what ever the **** you are i would **** you up.
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Despite what I said , this is grounds for ban. No ifs ands or buts.
and to make sure it's clear... https://honda-tech.com/zerohelp?topic=tos
What amazes me is the amount of newbies that join and want answers to questions ASAP without even using the search feature of this great site.
There is so much useful archived information available and all it would take is 5 minutes of your time to find what your looking for.
I spend countless hours searching as apposed to posting......
Anyway in my opinion i would not use any of spoon's overpriced re-badged honda parts for any performance application.
There is so much useful archived information available and all it would take is 5 minutes of your time to find what your looking for.
I spend countless hours searching as apposed to posting......
Anyway in my opinion i would not use any of spoon's overpriced re-badged honda parts for any performance application.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What amazes me is the amount of newbies that join and want answers to questions ASAP without even using the search feature of this great site. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Both of your comments were completely unneccessary - although it does not excuse the replies, you could have just left well enough alone or at least tried to point him in the right direction.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What amazes me is the amount of newbies that join and want answers to questions ASAP without even using the search feature of this great site. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Both of your comments were completely unneccessary - although it does not excuse the replies, you could have just left well enough alone or at least tried to point him in the right direction.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Both of your comments were completely unneccessary - although it does not excuse the replies, you could have just left well enough alone or at least tried to point him in the right direction.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I did ...
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I'll go along with the common answer and say search
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I did ...
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I'll go along with the common answer and say search
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Lets see...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> try searching</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> how about searching</TD></TR></TABLE>
So when people have used these responses, it's not helpful?
If it's not helpful then why am I being asked about this and no one else?
No :FIRE: just asking...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> SEARCH!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> SeArCh </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> use the search!</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> try searching</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> how about searching</TD></TR></TABLE>
So when people have used these responses, it's not helpful?
If it's not helpful then why am I being asked about this and no one else?
No :FIRE: just asking...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So when people have used these responses, it's not helpful?
If it's not helpful then why am I being asked about this and no one else?
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I'm not saying that its any better/different than the others that say search but the comment about "You should ask J's about that since you so far up their ***" was what I was referring to when I first posted.
If it's not helpful then why am I being asked about this and no one else?
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I'm not saying that its any better/different than the others that say search but the comment about "You should ask J's about that since you so far up their ***" was what I was referring to when I first posted.



