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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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There's an annoying young person in the UK who's insisting he's importing a JDM 1995 Integra Type R.

Was there any such thing, really? Were some 96-Spec ITR titled as 1995 MY in JDM?
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Default Re: 1995 Type R? 1995 96-Spec? (George Knighton)

Beleive it or not they were sold in 95 but they are not considered a 1995 production caR..they were for the 1996 market so take that for what its worth!

Hope i was of some help to you George

Edit: ...i just browsed my collection and did in fact find a brochure dated 1995ITR on the back but inside the motor is in fact advertised as a B18C 96 spec ITR

The kidd is wrong but i suppose the point could be argued if you dont know what your talking about

I am ignorant as to how the caR would be titled if it was in fact sold in late 95 though so perhaps his title does say 95ITR. I can say without a doubt that no ITR has ever been refered to as a 95 spec though!





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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C-Rsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Beleive it or not they were sold in late late 95 but they are not considered a 1995 production caR..they were for the 1996 market so take that for what its worth!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can confirm this too. A friend of mine owns one of them.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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In the Uk and here in Ireland it doesnt matter what year the spec is, the car will be registered as a 1995 car as that was when it was first registered in japan. I have seen quite a few of them, i remember seeing the amount of ITRs sold in japan a while back and a few thousand were sold in 1995. 96spec only refers to the spec of the car to differentiate it from a 98spec (which were sold in late 1997) I was a honda meeting a while back and there was a 1995 registered ITR and a 98spec with a 1997 registration plate on it. Click on this link for an irish japan import dealer, the thrid car down will be registered here as a 1995 car, as it was sold originally in japan in 1995.&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.performancemotorwor...1.htm
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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ROFL....

That is <u>exactly</u> the car my British friend is arguing with me about!
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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What does €14,750 translate to in whimpy American dollars?
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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What an interesting post. It's confirmed that you learn something new, literally every day.

Let me pose this question for quick debate: Since all model years in America are released at the middle/end of year before it's actual model year, would this make all 1997's actually 96' models and the 98'spec models 97's....etc. etc.?

I see this as a simple technicality but seeing it argued by people who are not willing to bend. The point of the arguement can go both ways, however I see no relevency to it. Fact of the matter is, is that cars for quite some time, and many consumer items for that matter, have always been released earlier than their respective model years. That's all apart of the lure. To get you to buy NOW instead of waiting. Why not have something that 'isn't' due to be out for four months?

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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14,750.00 EUR = 19,261.28 USD
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What does €14,750 translate to in whimpy American dollars?</TD></TR></TABLE>

14,750.00 EUR
Euro = 19,261.28 USD
United States Dollars
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Default Re: 1995 Type R? 1995 96-Spec? (George Knighton)

Ok well let me settle this all for you.....

There is no such thing as 1995 ITR!

hmmm lets see, "yeah i own a 95 ITR thats 96 spec" ....does that just not read right to anybody else?

I remember when my Father bought his new company caR in november of 94...it was actually a 1995 model! That doesn't make the caR a 94 though. Thats probably just good marketing skills to entice others to have something that others don't, which makes perfect sense b/c Americans are very materialistic and love to have "THINGS" if you will that others dont so they can brag about them!

&lt;--- Jon, who is not placing everybody into the stereotypical category but rather trying to make a point
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Haleiwa-Brando &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let me pose this question for quick debate: Since all model years in America are released at the middle/end of year before it's actual model year, would this make all 1997's actually 96' models and the 98'spec models 97's....etc. etc.?</TD></TR></TABLE>

1997 USDM ITRs were not available until January 1997... a late release for a 1997 model year car. My 1997 if I remember right was built in March 1997. I wish I knew when mine was "ordered" or delivered to Naples Acura when new.

I do not know if 1998 USDM ITRs were available with other 1998 Integra releases (usually September, October or November). Was there a delay in release for 1998s anyone?
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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April 95 it was released as a 96...
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C-Rsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok well let me settle this all for you.....

There is no such thing as 1995 ITR!

hmmm lets see, "yeah i own a 95 ITR thats 96 spec" ....does that just not read right to anybody else?
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Now you see you have settled nothing whatsoever as your talking crap. There is such a thing as a 1995 ITR. Do you think that when the ITR came out in japan in late 1995 that people referred to it as a 96Spec ITR???? It was only referred to as 96Spec when the 98spec came out! Why would it be called any spec when there was only one spec available....it was called an Integra Type R from late 1995 to late 97 and then became known as a 96spec purely to differentiate it to the 98 model! They started building and selling ITRs in japan in 1995, so anyone who bought one in late 1995 has a 1995 ITR. Over here our registration plates are made up starting with the year, then county then number. When a car is imported from japan it comes with de-registration papers and other documentation, the customs here designate a registraion number based on the date of the first registration in country of origin, so when an ITR arrives here and its papers state clearly it was originally registered first in japan in 1995, then that cars registration number will start with 95 XX XXXX...so its a 1995 ITR!!!!!!!!!! If you then go to sell the car, telling someone its a 96spec means squat as its reg plate says its a 95 car! And here the age of the car determines the price not the spec year...maybe its totally different in the US but here and in the Uk that is the way it is and always will be.


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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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According to BMI Type-R Legend, the first 96 specs was released in 1995.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .Stunna. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">April 95 it was released as a 96...</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I bought my 2000 Type R in 1999. Don't see why things would have been different back then.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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yea I have the so called "96" Spec ITR motor...The head is stamped 95
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Do you think that when the ITR came out in japan in late 1995 that people referred to it as a 96Spec ITR???? It was only referred to as 96Spec when the 98spec came out!

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Congratulations on being 100% wrong jackass.... I'll have pictures to post on monday of a brochure dated 1995 that very much refers to the motor in the caR as a B18C 96 Spec which if i am not mistaken came out before 98!

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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I dont know why are you arguing here for a sh-it?

The car was shown first in (october?) on the tokyo car show.... first ITRs were sold in the end of 95 but it was suposed to be released in the beginning of 96.....

According to date of production, it can be 95 ITR,

96 spec and 98 spec are only then made due to differences in models.... and these "spec" are mostly ment for japanese costumers only, US and EU itrs had (no matter that they were 97-98) some specs from the 96 spec and 98 spec, so a "kinda hybrid"
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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Yeah, there is such thing as a 95 ITR, but they have the same specs as the 1996 spec, if that makes sense.

Have seen a couple of "95 ITR" for sale here. (Most of our ITRs are imported from Japan)
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 02:24 AM
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sure, the car should be out in beggining of 96 but they did it in late 95... so nothing special :-)
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 02:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .Stunna. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">April 95 it was released as a 96...</TD></TR></TABLE>

1 more time. everyone, is it really nessisary to bitch and complain about it.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Twin-cam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont know why are you arguing here for a sh-it?

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Do you still wanna disagree with me....? If you look closely at the last pic in the lower right hand corner the brochure is dated 95' . Sorry the pic is so bad but the print was far too small!


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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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LOL!

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Ok i was wrong...but all i was trying to say was that ITRs were available in 1995, so therefore there are 1995 Integra Type R's.
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