Did a search and found some people saying that 1st gear is not always the easiest gear to get into from a stop or from downshifting. Anyone else have this problem. I running a JDM 98spec ITR w/LSD tranny in my ek hatch. Have had the swap for about 6 months and problem just started happening or maybe Im just starting to realize it

 

ya i have the same problem in my integra rs, with a 98 jdm type R w/lsd swap.

Its hard to get into first gear when u're coming to a stop, its like u must be almost completely stopped inorder to get into it. And its impossible to downshift into first when u're going like 10km/hr.

 

first gear isnt syncronized

to both of you

 

Sounds like a clutch problem if it's really hard to engage first...

 

Everyone has the same issue.

 

ya, i know this. it just seemed to me like it started to get a little harder than usual. I had originally thought it may have something to do w/my linkage until i heard people saying its kinda common w/all the integra trans..

 

heres what i do when coming to a stop. i go into neutral, stay in neutral and shift into first once ready to go. try doing that and will work 100% of the time

 

I have the same problem from time to time, on my R, and my old civic, I think its just a honda thing.

 

You aren't supposed to be able to shift into first unless you are going at a really low speed.

 

if it won't go into 1st from a stop - put it in reverse first - then it should go into first easily.

 

Death to all of you! Kidding.

Anyone with coordination should be able to shift into first when moving. I don't do it any faster than say 15mph. Simply double pump the clutch pedal quickly as your moving the shifter into first gear. So think of performing a normal shift accept your left foot is on crack and doing to pumps in the same time or faster as it takes you to perform one pump.

Aloha,
Brandon

 

is it like u have to rev to the right(higher) rpm in order to throw the gear in 1st from a slower speed?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MaskedDC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it like u have to rev to the right(higher) rpm in order to throw the gear in 1st from a slower speed?</TD></TR></TABLE>

B-I-N-G-O....B-I-N-GO....B-I-N-G-O and Bingo was his name-OOooooh (referring to a dog)



heard a little kid sing that this morning playing in the snow..... same principle as downshifting/revmatching....

countless people I've ridden with just dump it into a lower gear and let out the clutch producing a sickening lurch and done repeatedly creates some pretty nice clutch stank driven at high(er) speeds.

 

do not downshift into first, untill your at a complete stop, you guys are gonna **** your trans up, first gear is not syncronzed, your not supposed to be able to downshift into first untill your stopped, theres no reason why you should downshift into first untill your stopped

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres no reason why you should downshift into first untill your stopped</TD></TR></TABLE>

Debatably, useful in autocrosses. Done it.

-Chris

 

rev match it if you want to do it...it'll slide right in...otherwise 1st gear has a lockout so you don't blow up your engine...

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Klemgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rev match it if you want to do it...it'll slide right in...otherwise 1st gear has a lockout so you don't blow up your engine...</TD></TR></TABLE>

First question to both of you is:

Have you ever done it?

My first statement is that I do it All the time, as in Every time I come to a traffic light all the time.

Next question is where did you both get this information? Or did you just make it up?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Klemgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rev match it if you want to do it...it'll slide right in...otherwise 1st gear has a lockout so you don't blow up your engine...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Quote of the year.

 

not sure about the lockout or 1st gear isn't synchronized, but from time to time i do have problem getting the shifter into 1st in my 00 ITR w/ LSD tranny, but 80% of the time it seems to do fine even if i was coming to a rolling stop, perhaps bleed your clutch, flush your tranny fluid would help? honda trannies should be one of the best out there, altho nothing's perfect, and for street driving, downshifting into 1st isn't really necessary right?

 

All I know is one my car I tried rev matching it (have driven straight cut gears MANY times) and even at 20 with the RPM up to about 5000 the thing still had a slight grind and didn't go. I dunno first gear is fine, drained fluid has no grinds ever, and never pops out but it did that. Plus isn't there the first gear lock out for anything over 5mph?

 

what is first gear?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nytemare &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Plus isn't there the first gear lock out for anything over 5mph?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I must have broken it about 30,000 miles ago then.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I must have broken it about 30,000 miles ago then.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO

The reason it is supposed to be really hard is that on the transmission output/input shafts the 1st and reverse gear are connected (why you go to reverse then 1st). Imagine how hard it would be shift into reverse while moving... same thing. The lockout is on the GSR, I know that it's in the gate but searching various places has yet to yield an exact answer. It's obviously there in some way or the car would simply grind. As far as being on ITR tranny's I do not know the USDM and/or JDM did not have them. Anyone know?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres what i do when coming to a stop. i go into neutral, stay in neutral and shift into first once ready to go. try doing that and will work 100% of the time</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed.

 

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Quote of the year.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where did I lose you?

Rev matching will let it go into gear when you're trying to get it into first while moving. Try it. I've done it a few times on an AutoX course.

2nd, 1st gear has a lockout above 15 mph so you don't go into the gear and redline the **** outta your car and send a rod into orbit...

You won't get it into first while moving without rev matching.

Soooo...what's the question now.