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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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will 90* fittings be okay for my turbo setup?

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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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I usually find that the return lines use either:

(1) -10AN straight + (1) -10AN 45 deg fittings

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(2) -10AN 45 deg fittings

I prefer the former whenever possible since straight fittings are a helluva lot cheaper than angled fittings of the same size.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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what about a 90 degree fitting coming off the bottom of the turbo.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:37 AM
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I'm using a -10AN 45* brass fitting off the turbo going to a straight hose fitting.



For the oil pan I used a straight weld on -10AN fitting with a 45* hose fitting.

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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm using a -10AN 45* brass fitting off the turbo going to a straight hose fitting.



For the oil pan I used a straight weld on -10AN fitting with a 45* hose fitting.

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I have nearly an identical setup (excpet no 45* into pan) and I'm getting considerable smoke after boosting, I'm thinking about getting a 90* off the pan so give the oil a steeper drop in the hopes of aleviating some flow issues..
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:47 AM
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i useds a 45 at the turbo and a 90 degree at the pan
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTC_resurected_CiViC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have nearly an identical setup (excpet no 45* into pan) and I'm getting considerable smoke after boosting, I'm thinking about getting a 90* off the pan so give the oil a steeper drop in the hopes of aleviating some flow issues..</TD></TR></TABLE>

-10AN line? All downhill? Still smoking? Are you sure it's oil smoke...have you checked your downpipe?

Yeah, try a 45* or maybe 90* fitting. Personally I think it's harder for a fluid to pass through a 90* than a 45* or a straight.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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hey dax, im using the hf manifold and the t25 and the turbo sits so low It looks like ill need a 90* fitting to put on the turbo for it even began to start to slope in the right direction. Do you think that would be ok? Im using a restrictor so its not like im letting alot off oil get built up
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

-10AN line? All downhill? Still smoking? Are you sure it's oil smoke...have you checked your downpipe?

Yeah, try a 45* or maybe 90* fitting. Personally I think it's harder for a fluid to pass through a 90* than a 45* or a straight.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well the only catch is, since I don't have the 45* you do at the pan, my line comes in pretty flat, I'm thinking maybe that's causing a backup. It's definatley a turbo related issue though cause when I pulled the vacuum line off the compressor port I had a little stream of oil drip out of the compressor

*hoping seals aren't bad already*
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Curtis2kul &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey dax, im using the hf manifold and the t25 and the turbo sits so low It looks like ill need a 90* fitting to put on the turbo for it even began to start to slope in the right direction. Do you think that would be ok? Im using a restrictor so its not like im letting alot off oil get built up</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're not using a restrictor on the oil return right?! Of course not [I hope]...

Do whatever you have to. It is of the utmost importance that your oil return line has a good direct line of flow back to the oil pan or you will experience oil backup and eventually smoke and blow your seals. Oil return from a turbo is completely reliant on gravity feed.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTC_resurected_CiViC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well the only catch is, since I don't have the 45* you do at the pan, my line comes in pretty flat, I'm thinking maybe that's causing a backup. It's definatley a turbo related issue though cause when I pulled the vacuum line off the compressor port I had a little stream of oil drip out of the compressor

*hoping seals aren't bad already* </TD></TR></TABLE>

Possibly so. You should probably try to get the 45*. I got all my lines from Stan [Flamenco-T] @ Fast-Turbo. He's the man to contact.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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You have the neukin a/c manifold? From the looks of where your turbo is sitting, it looks like you have a log manifold. . .

My neukin manifold sits the bottom of the turbo almost level with the return fitting on my oil pan
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have the neukin a/c manifold? From the looks of where your turbo is sitting, it looks like you have a log manifold. . .

My neukin manifold sits the bottom of the turbo almost level with the return fitting on my oil pan </TD></TR></TABLE>

have you mistaken someone else's post for mine? i don't think someone else said they had the neukin ac manifold other than me.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have the neukin a/c manifold? From the looks of where your turbo is sitting, it looks like you have a log manifold. . .

My neukin manifold sits the bottom of the turbo almost level with the return fitting on my oil pan </TD></TR></TABLE>

The pictures above are of my setup. I'm running a Sidewinder.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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i guess im going to run out tommoro and get the 90* fitting to put on my return. i guess it should work. Since i have the restrictor on there the is not going to be much oil getting to it So therefor a large amount of oil will not be trying to drain
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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how do you guys know how much oil to restrict with the restrictor?
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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well to tell you the truth, you really dont know how much oil to restrict! alot of people run w/o restrictors with no problems, but once you start messing with used turbo's and stuff the seals get weak, etc. I have one because my return is a little on the sketchy side and i thought it might help the smoking a little(which didnt)
Plus some guys dont want to ruin there brand new turbo by putting to much pressure on it
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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werd, reason i'm asking is because i've seen two types of restrictors, one that's a valve you adjust and one where it looks like a fitting with a pinhole in it... i might just go with the pinhole route.. unless someone may think otherwise?
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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i got mine for 12 buck shipped , good quality, and its a ball type restictor. IMO i would use one this style
but its up to you
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm using a -10AN 45* brass fitting off the turbo going to a straight hose fitting.

For the oil pan I used a straight weld on -10AN fitting with a 45* hose fitting.

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I know those pics r from your setup, I thought you posted them to show that you had the same manifold (as the orignal poster, aka neukin a/c) and were using those return lines.

I'm just stupid, because I know that you have the sidewinder manifold (I remember your past posts)
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Curtis2kul &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got mine for 12 buck shipped , good quality, and its a ball type restictor. IMO i would use one this style
but its up to you
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is it the one from stealthmode?
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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yes
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SHystrdyGSRtdy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do you guys know how much oil to restrict with the restrictor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm feeding with a -3AN Goodridge line with no restrictor. Anything larger and you should probably use a restrictor.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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well i put the 90 on the return line. Seems to drain a little better but still smoke when im stoped. I guess im just going to have to live with a little smoke for now.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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i think imma go with the pinhole type restrictor (nonadjustable) but i still don't know which fittings i should use for the return st/st, 90/90, 45/45, st/90, st/45, 90/45 ,etc....
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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anyone consider this for a restrictor?

mcmaster part number 48805K128 on pg 9

316SS adapter

look at the technical drawing and you will notice its got a little bit of restriction on it.
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