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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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I finished the exterior, suspension, wheels/tires and now the motors left. I have a LS integra that just hit 100,000 miles. It is my daily driver and i occasionally will take it to the track. Im stuck in deciding what to do as far as the engine goes. I currently have bolt-ons. Now of course money is an issue but what will be the best way to go. I know LS is great for turbo but then i must build my bottom end and i could go on spending money forever... and i know ls vtec is cheaper but may be less power and more of a mechanical nightmare... what are your thoughts for my situation .. my goal is anywhere between 200 - 275hp. What will be the best for my higher milage car and daily driver use + whats better for when i take it to the track ?? thanks and yes im searching into each
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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personally i would turbo that bitch, there isnt anything the pull of a turbo
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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with a greddy turbo kit, intercooler, and BOV ... 200+ hp range is easily attainable with proper tuning w/o building the motor... i 2 thought ls/vtec but if you read up on it there are ALOT of problems mostly since the rod ratio is a POS and most lsvt that arn't built are f*k'd after awhile so after learning more i decided to ditch that route.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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I have a modified greddy kit on my Del sol with an LS and love it , but if you have the cash do both. You can always get one and do the other later. Trust me once you go turbo you will never want to go back
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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money pit. keep the motor stock, keep it maintained. Aussie land is pretty this time of year.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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If you're gonna chose between the two I'd say turbo. Of course, building either option right is gonna cost ya. But, I'd say built ls/vtec the right way for daily driving and especially that hp goal will be all but unattainable. Now turbo....that's a different story.

<----stock LS right now too w/b16 pistons. Wishes he had money too.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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go turbo, less problems to deal with and you will realistically get around 170 hp with a greddy bolt-on at 7psi. That's a good start if you don't want to hassle with too many motor problems and 200 hp is attainable.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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you only got 30 hp on 7psi?? [140 hp stock ls and you quoted 170 on 7 psi]...i dunno i see cars getting much more than that on 7psi
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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turbo, hands down

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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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nuff said, snail that bitch
just get a nice block guard and some new rings/rods...you can boost a nice amount
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you only got 30 hp on 7psi?? [140 hp stock ls and you quoted 170 on 7 psi]...i dunno i see cars getting much more than that on 7psi</TD></TR></TABLE> he probably means at the wheels LS is only like 120 or so hp at the wheels. 170 whp is probably around 200hp if it was measured at the flywheel.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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I'd say turbo
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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you wont be dissapointed if you go turbo!!!
LS-T yummmm
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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i thought so ... TURBO it is !

t3/t4 turbo
intercooler and piping
injectors
BOV
fuel pump
wastegate
exhaust manifold
clutch
oil feed lines
ecu hondata or power vafc

What else do you guys suggest for parts do i need to basically start my turbo kit for a reliable setup on my 100k engine ??? ... i can always build up for more power in the future
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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LS VTEC... ....is the way to go!!! i was in your shoe... i have a 95 ls with 143,xxx miles...i have a blown 16g turbo from an eclipse gsx...it's my daily driver... my rings are fried and my starter is kinda jacked. i have to keep cranking over for it to start...im not blamming the turbo for condition off my car... i have been doing research... i came up with.... n/a is better if you BUILD your car up right and dont take shortcuts !!! cost wise i heard lsvtec is cheaper long run... but then someone could prove me wrong... but just do your own thing and keep doing research...
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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It's so pointless to argue this. Why not do both?
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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Go Turbo, become a boost a holic like the rest of us
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1320lsvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS VTEC... ....is the way to go!!! i was in your shoe... i have a 95 ls with 143,xxx miles...i have a blown 16g turbo from an eclipse gsx...it's my daily driver... my rings are fried and my starter is kinda jacked. i have to keep cranking over for it to start...im not blamming the turbo for condition off my car... i have been doing research... i came up with.... n/a is better if you BUILD your car up right and dont take shortcuts !!! cost wise i heard lsvtec is cheaper long run... but then someone could prove me wrong... but just do your own thing and keep doing research...</TD></TR></TABLE>


ummmm a turbo can be just as reliable, and building it properly is the key with modding ANY motor
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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I drive my boosted integra almost everyday and I do not have problems. usdm420 is very accurate in stating that it is all in the build and maintenance
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkblueInteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> he probably means at the wheels LS is only like 120 or so hp at the wheels. 170 whp is probably around 200hp if it was measured at the flywheel. </TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly, 170 to the wheels with just the basic turbo out the box, no intercooler, nothing. potential for greatness though
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Well since you are in CA like me, I will reccomend getting a CARB legal turbo kit, unless you have other cars then don't worry about it. I am currently going throush some doo-doo with B.A.R. and the DMV, makes me wish I had kept the original engine sometimes.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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like said before go BOTH! then you will enjoy best of both sides. even though a little bit more money, but may be worth it just my 2cent
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:23 AM
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ls/vtec for sure.....
my DD is ls/vtec itb'd and runs perfect everyday and pulls hard..untuned
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 03:05 AM
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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200 whp at 7psi seems low.
i would expect about 220+whp at 7 psi with m greddy kit

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