Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real?

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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Default Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33742

THIS AUCTION IS FOR

(1) 50MM BOV

AND

(1) SUPER 38MM 2 BOLT WG

BRAND NEW IN THE BOX
NEVER MOUNTED

LIFETIME WARRANTY

Fake Tial BOV

Fake Tial Wastegate


Real Tial Wastegate

Real Tial BOV 50mm


It's about 200 shipped for a BOV and wastegate u can get a real tial wastegate for about that price + u get a free BOV

I know it's SSautochrome myself, I will never buy their manifolds or turbos, i have seen them crack and come unglewed, but i want to know are these products the same

Don't just say u get what u pay for or

I want to hear from people who have these or have run them, and please post up pics

I want to get the real for my new setup, but this will save me about 200 bucks, but if u can show me they are not good, i will spend the extra $$ to get quailty ****, but i want to see a fake vs real? please post up info, I DID search! even though it's not working now
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quad-Damge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't just say u get what u pay for or </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just because it's what you dont want to hear doesn't mean you shouldn't hear it, because it's the truth.

But in either case, people have had luck with both, just take the wastegate apart, and loctite it when you put it back together.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real? (tegunderpressure)

so who actually has one?
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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i am pretty sure a couple of people here have run the ssautochrome wg and had no problems
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Check out the SSAC BOV thread on homemadeturbo.com
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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personally I'd run a SSAC bov because it's not as necessary for it to be precise unlike a WG. I'd rater shell out the extra $50-$75 for a real TiAL and have the assurance that it will work like it should at all times
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onePOINTsix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">personally I'd run a SSAC bov because it's not as necessary for it to be precise unlike a WG. I'd rater shell out the extra $50-$75 for a real TiAL and have the assurance that it will work like it should at all times </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real? (Quad-Damge)

i had the waste gate....other then being 35mm it was same as my new tial...actually used a 38mm diaphram out of tial in it when i sold it!..
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real? (Quad-Damge)

bump also curious
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real? (Maverik4k)

i have the 35mm ssautochrome WG and it is great, never spikes even in below zero weather
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real? (Btothe3rdDegree)

i can't find the info on HMT, can u pm it to me, or put the link here please
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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I personally would use it, the external gate construction isn't as complex as a turbo construction, so i don't think much could go wrong except for a broken diaphram which could be real bad. Actually let me rephrase that i would use it knowing that i have my hondata boost limit set at 10psi so that if something does go wrong i will catch it, but if i didnt have the hondata i don't think i would be able to keep my eye off that boost gauge.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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good info, keep the input coming
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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i agree with going for the real thing with the WG at least.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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My friend has the fake Tial wastegate for 8 months now and he's had no problems
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real? (Quad-Damge)

I think this all comes down to risk management.
Obviously you are having concerns about the reliability of these products. And if you are unwilling to become a guini pig to test it I say, take in account what the potential risks are and go from there.

A shitty BOV will probably lessen the lifespan your turbo, while this is not cheap it is relativly not hard to or time consuming to replace.

But a Bad Wastgate has the potential to cause great harm if it does not function properly and can set you back alot of money and time.

I say if you must try and save a few dollars. Get the SSautochrome BOV and get a Tial wastgate. And cut costs on other parts which isn't so risky to do so. Like intercooler or maybe a log manifold. While they are less efficient they will probably save you the extra few dollars you are looking for. And will be less risky to go cheaper on.

Either way GL on your decision and setup.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Default Re: Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real? (eddyboy)

the way i look at it , if your gonna throw all your money into your car , why skimp on anything alex , your spending a grand on sleeves , might as well get the brand name bov and wastegate.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Default Re: Ssautocrhome Fake Tial Wastegate + Fake tial BOV Vs Real? (Quad-Damge)

it would be better to use trusted products

I think it is better to use quality products from the start even though they are a bit more expensive than to save a few bucks at first and then have to replace the parts later (waste of time and money).

Tial products are bad *** and are not expensive.

SSautochrome has a bad reputation and most of their products turn out to be shitty, so why chance it to save a little money?

if you insist on using ssautoshit, good luck, but I just wouldn't feel comfortable with it. I tried one of their manifolds and its shittiness was enough to make me say never use anything they make.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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you pay what you pay for is you want it buy it, if it makes you happy. remember a wastegate pretty much determines the life of your motor. just take that into consideration
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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I received the SS autochrome wastegate bundled with a turbo i bought from them. It working in my turbo setup, i had a few problems with the top coming loose during installation, but i was able to tighten it up and get it working fine.

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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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I have the wastegate, I took it apart to look at the inside when I got it, then put it back together and have been running it for 6 months now, Never boost spiked yet. Works great
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MooreBoost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check out the SSAC BOV thread on homemadeturbo.com</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup. I'm planning on getting these. I didn't know you could get them as a combo for 200. Pretty good.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Its cheap 3rd world built **** built by pesant monkeys. It is a fact that they have poor build qulity in their products and use poor materials. Did you see the thread where the compressor of a SSAC turbo seperated?
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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^^ if u would of look what i wrote, u would know yes, i saw it come unglewed, i have seen there turbo blows, i have seen there manifolds brake, but now they are building bov and wastegate copys, are they any good? thats what i want to know
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quad-Damge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but now they are building bov and wastegate copys, are they any good? thats what i want to know</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ask the people who had their's **** up and overboosted their engines until they were expensive paper weights.
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