I got eibach sportline for my 94 accord the drop is good but the front sits higher then the rear due to fender illusion. Has any one attenpted to cut a lil of the front of this spring. By the way I have adjustable alliminas. Any suggestions

 

I have the same problem with my neuspeed race springs. Unfortunately if you cut the spring then you have messed with the spring rate which could lead to problems down the road. The only solution I know if is to get Koni Yellows and set the perches lower in the front.

 

or you can get a an h22a swap.. heavier engine... its gonna sit lower... J/k man
whatever you do, do not cut your springs... thats my 2 coppers.

 

it sits with the front up a bit because thats making the car level

 

What is your drop ratio...rear and front?

 

sportlines are 1.9" back front...it drop the car evenly, so it maintains OEM parralecitiy (is that a word?) with the groud.....other spirngs may even out the gap, but then the car will pitch up or down

 

cut them. that ish would bother me too much...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ogbusboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cut them. that ish would bother me too much...</TD></TR></TABLE>

we dont need stupid coments like that.....the car looks fine...i too have sportlines...jebus christ man.....dont ruin your $200 springs by cutting them, thus runining their tension

 

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we dont need stupid coments like that.....the car looks fine...i too have sportlines...jebus christ man.....dont ruin your $200 springs by cutting them, thus runining their tension</TD></TR></TABLE>

how is my comment stupid? he's annoyed by the way his car looks...Ive cut my aftermarket springs and the ride was the same. I only cut half a coil and ive helped my friend cut 1 whole coil from his eibachs, and his ride was the same.

you cut coils before??

 

no, im not dumb enough.....why dont you take a physics class, and learn for yourself what cutting the springs does

 

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LOL. ok mang. I learned what it does by actually doing it. Dont try to insult someone who has actually done something you havent.

dont judge someones intel because YOU think its wrong/stupid...

have an open mind.

peace.

 

i guess im not the only one who thingks its/stupid wrong....however you seem to be the only one who as done it, and would still recomend it

heres people from all genres of cars and of autmotive modification..from ricers to mud boggers..they all seem to agree with me:

http://www.chevyhiperformance....47055/
http://forums.turbobricks.com/....html
http://www.automotiveforums.co....html
http://www.superhonda.com/foru...56451
http://www.automotivehelper.com/topic108789.htm
http://www.performancefordmag....=2986
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1589025
http://vwdov.ca/forum/printthr...49561
http://www.sr20forum.com/showthread.php?t=88359
http://www.jdmuniverse.com/for....html

maybe you should learn exactly how springs work, perhaps then you can figure out why cutting them is an unsafe thing to do:

http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us....html
http://www.darvill.clara.net/e...s.htm

if that isnt good enough, here you can learn how car springs work w/ the rest of the car...and understand how they are designed to function in tandem:

http://www.kent.k12.wa.us/staf...henry/
http://www.racer.nl/reference/...pring

im sorry, you lose...please die

 

wasnt aware it was competition.

but since you insist...

maybe you should actually some of the threads you posted. they have to do with cutting STOCK coils. When did I ever say I cut STOCK coils? The person asking in this thread has Eibachs.

i understand how springs work. Take your own advice.

You keep insisting on making this a science class. Ok fine...My science experiment was on my 95' maxima and my 95' accord. Cut coils on both. Car handled/traveled/rebound the same. Both had more than 2 years of driving.

Where are your HARD facts? Oh wait..you dont have any..besides what you've read here on Honda-Tech....

seriously you should READ your "proof" before you post it.

 

OMFG...

You got owned and you wont even admit it.

Do you think Eibach's are any less engineered than the stock ones?

It's like saying if I need a heart transplant and I get a lung transplant i'll be fine because I got new lungs!

THey're BOTH engineered to perform they way they are. If you want lower get some 'super down's or whatever they are. Cutting springs is a poor solution.

Did you read the links? Several people in those forums have lost arms or lives due to drivers with cut springs who could no longer control their car.

Then there were TWO links that were SPECIFICALLY for lowering vehicles and the pros cons within that idea. Did you read those?

I got a set of Neuspeed race springs for an EG for 90 bucks shipped. That lowers it 2.25 front and 2 rear. Good quality brand, good stance, 90 shipped, ebay is your friend.

You should just save up 100 bucks or whatnot and get a good deal on ebay when they 'spring' up, haha I made a pun.

just give up.

 

The reason we dont TRY this stuff is because we're not DUMB enough to do it!

Some guy thought he'd get a better port and polish by running SAND through his intake manifold. We didnt do that because we knew it was STUPID. Want to go try that simply because someone else did it? No, because it's a STUPID idea.

 

LOL. ok whatever. i dont come to honda-tech to start arguing with people that only talk about modifications and dont do them....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ogbusboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL. ok whatever. i dont come to honda-tech to start arguing with people that only talk about modifications and dont do them....

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You're a total moron. I give up.

Keep cutting springs hopefully you'll crash and not hurt anyone else and make our lives easier. Why dont you get an aluminum wing while you're at it?

 

im a moron because my opinion is different than yours?
why cant you respect my opinion? you dont see me dissing you in any form. Why cant you should someone else some respect? I wouldnt wish you to crash, no matter how much your ideas were opposed to mine.

I guess wishing for someones injury is "cool" in your eyes.

 

No one's injury is 'cool' in my eyes. Thats why we said to put new springs on your car instead of cutting it. But if you dont, i suggest killing yourself before killing other people wiht that thing. It's dangerous. I dont want anyone to crash, but it'd be a lot wiser to change the springs or take yourself out instead of some innocent people who werent involved at all with your decision...

Your opinion is your opinion. But if dozens of people, and laws of physics, and several reports are all AGAINST your opinion, it's not a very good opinion is it? And we dont want someone else thinking it's an excellent idea lest they hurt themselves.

What are my mods, you asked?
I've been scammed for 1800 off of a turbo setup. I give up with that. I'm getting rid of my accord ASAP to get an EG hatch, so modifications arent really important right now. But they are as follows, since you asked but just edited it out:

Iceman intake/Apex'i WS exhaust (good daily driver pep within legal limits)
Jackson Racing springs (been racing hondas longer than anyone else in the US, lowers it 1.25", good center of gravity for daily driver road handling)
Acura TL type S rear sway conversion (thicker bar, easy mod)
Front strut bar (a lot tighter handling in combo w/rear sway)
Sylvania Silverstar lights (a lot brighter than stock but meets SAE DOT standards)
Fogs (for better visibility at night, amber in color because AMBER is second to RED in cutting through fog)
Red LEDs for cabin lighting (because we do not lose our night vision in red light, much safer for turning lights on at night)
PIAA wiper blades (cut right through the water because of blade material and are made to stay on windshield at speed)

And now for my rice:
M3 mirrors powered with LED turn signal (I wanted extra signals because I think it's safer from the side for traffic that may not see my normal signal lights, not for looks at all)
Red/clear tails (because it looks better than pink! My only appearance mod.)

Soon to be done:
Brembo blank rotors w/ Axxis pads (my rotors are warped and i'm looking for better braking characteristics)

Every modification i've made to my car MINUS the red/clear tails have a significant advantage to improve my car's ability and be as safe as possible for both me and other people on the road. Every modification i've made has a particular reason with performance in mind. Is this what you were looking for?

 

i edited b/c i didnt want to change the subject of the thread. but i just think its funny when people like you badger people on this board, when they personally have never tried and/or have any experience with the subject at hand.

Yes its true, it can be dangerous if done incorrectly. Anyway like ive stated many times already, i had NO problems.

anyway i wont bother you with my mod list....im just a riceboy with a big ole wing.

laters.

 

im sorry dude, i dont think your getting my point.....

the fact of the matter is that i dont care what YOU do to your car....the fact of the matter is I, nor any of the other regulars to the accord forum, want to see anyone endorsing cutting of springs. its dangerous to do, it can damage OEM OR aftermarket suspension parts (shocks come to mind), but the biggest thing is the result it has on SPRING RATE...springs that are cut even too little will go all out of whack (yes, even "ebay" springs are designed with physics in mind)...this will creat an excessivley bouncy ride...no big deal, just an inconvinece...right??...wrong.

cutting springs can cause unequal spring rates left to right. what can that do? well, under heavy load during tight cornering, it can cause FF wheel jumping (anyone who knows anything about autoxing or aggressivley driving an FF knows what im talking about) to be magnified to a great extent, which can cause complete loss of control, and at high enough speeds, COULD cause the cars to flip.

it has long been "tradition" on this board not to endource certain things....toping that list is cutting the springs. it is dangerous not only to the driver, but to fellow motorists. pelase die before you hurt anyone else w/o you slammed JDM tight car

 

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False.

This is both dangerous and incredibly [ed]ignorant.

If you cut the springs and change the factory suspension geometry you are undoing something a Honda engineer was paid well to set up correctly.

This not only negatively effects handling wether you realize it now or when your car is bouncing up and down in the rain headed off the road. Or losing a contact patch for 1 milisecond on an uneven road.

Unless you can give me a reason for this and the calculations you used to cut the springs I suggest you rethink your position.

 

Welcome to 2005, please do not cut your springs.

Go back to 1975 with your daytona

beside, sometime dead coil(the lower part of the spring where it sits on the shocks) once they are cut they wouldn't sit right.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ogbusboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i edited b/c i didnt want to change the subject of the thread. but i just think its funny when people like you badger people on this board, when they personally have never tried and/or have any experience with the subject at hand.

Yes its true, it can be dangerous if done incorrectly. Anyway like ive stated many times already, i had NO problems.

anyway i wont bother you with my mod list....im just a riceboy with a big ole wing.

laters.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not a stupid idea, it's just ignorant. That's not really your fault.

It's not the correct way to lower a vehicle and retain desireable vehicle dynamics. Period. It isn't an arguable point. It's a fact. Accept it or not it will always be fact.

I cannot let you taint facts and pass them as tested truth.

 

lol i don't want to put my head into a **** fight but i think both of u guys have good points. On one side farmer john is cutting his springs in his garage and has made some contraption that might not work as effectively as the manufactuer anticipated. But on the other hand u have a deteremind tuner that isn't far from the last kid to be picked at a middle school playground event who just wants to fit in and do things right. Springs are cut period. Whether a manufacturer does or if it is custom. Who's to say that the drunk factory worker cutting ur springs didn't mess up and now u have faulty springs that are worse then ur stock ones. All in all quit messin around with lowering springs because they aren't that great and eventually sag. JUST GET FULLY ADJUSTABLE COIL OVERS AND BE DONE WITH THE MATTER. TEIN preferrably. Have fun finishing this interesting and ongoing argument