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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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im changin from all motor to boost. and my question is. i wanna run around 10-12psi boost on the street. and then run 20-25 on the track. just curious what would be a good choice of turbo to run for that set up. its on a B18c1. thanx.

P.S. before anyone flames. of course i will have it fully built with sleeves and forged internals. was gonna go with 84mm bore. and about 9:1 cr.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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?

I always thought that having a car tuned for 10-12 psi and then jacking it up to 20+ at the track was a big no-no...

But eh, I think a good search should do you good. =] Also as a side note, is this a daily driver?
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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When you are looking for a turbo you look for a turbo that will suit your Hp goal not boost level.
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocket256 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you are looking for a turbo you look for a turbo that will suit your Hp goal not boost level.</TD></TR></TABLE>
excellent point
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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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yea, i could run all the boost i want on a t3, doesnt mean it'll make power at the boost level i run.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nexx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">?

I always thought that having a car tuned for 10-12 psi and then jacking it up to 20+ at the track was a big no-no...

But eh, I think a good search should do you good. =] Also as a side note, is this a daily driver? </TD></TR></TABLE>

if i run AEM, i thought i could have 2 sets of maps saved on a laptop. and change them whenever i want. so when i go to the track. i just reload the differenty maps for that boost level. maybe im wrong tho??


i dont really have a desired hp number in mind. obviously as much as possible. but it is a daily driver tho. 350whp for the street would bwe nice. and close to 450whp for the track.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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good luck
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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precision SC-61 is nice

precision GT-35R is nice too

or just get this big *** turbo I have...if you want the most power possible...precision/sound performance SP71 GTQ...rated to 850+whp
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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I used to run an HKS GT2835, that thing made a little over 300whp on my car and spooled extremely fast, It's a nice turbo and it can make up to 400hp or so. I would suggest something similar to what im using now, i am really pleased with my current setup. Right now im running a Garrett GT30, is spools a little bit slower but makes much more power, I made 380whp at 15lbs on my lsvtec, my roomate put down 554whp with this turbo but wanted more power so he is now using a GT3040. I think a GT28 or a GT30 would be good turbos for what you want to do.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GT30LSVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used to run an HKS GT2835, that thing made a little over 300whp on my car and spooled extremely fast, It's a nice turbo and it can make up to 400hp or so. I would suggest something similar to what im using now, i am really pleased with my current setup. Right now im running a Garrett GT30, is spools a little bit slower but makes much more power, I made 380whp at 15lbs on my lsvtec, my roomate put down 554whp with this turbo but wanted more power so he is now using a GT3040. I think a GT28 or a GT30 would be good turbos for what you want to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

about what rpm does that gt30 spool at?? i do alot of autocross. so i dont want something too lagy. if it spools by 2000rpm it should be fine tho.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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i dont think you will see full boost from a gt30 at 2000rpm...... that just from me reading here on honda-tech... havent seen anything like that.


I would be interested in the gt28 or gt30 also..... which is going to be a faster car though is my question....... if both are putting out around 300 hp i would guess the gt28 because of spool times.

Dont want to get to crazy on the street... wont hold traction.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:37 AM
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You live in Forth Mcmurray where the highway is the track. I know I have been there. BTW you can not have early spool and lot of top end HP at the same time. Because a small turbine will give an early spool but will choke the top end. You will have to choose the power band you want. Get at least a T04e 60 trim compressor and .63 a/r min turbine.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 05:54 AM
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t3/t04e
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.63 a/r

nice and cheap, while still performing excellently
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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im fully spooled at about 3000rpm with the gt30, the gt28 was at about 2600-2700, if you do autocross use the gt28.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GT30LSVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im fully spooled at about 3000rpm with the gt30, the gt28 was at about 2600-2700, if you do autocross use the gt28.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do u think i would be able to turn out for whp tho?? when i crank up the boost.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coocoo32 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You live in Forth Mcmurray where the highway is the track. I know I have been there. BTW you can not have early spool and lot of top end HP at the same time. Because a small turbine will give an early spool but will choke the top end. You will have to choose the power band you want. Get at least a T04e 60 trim compressor and .63 a/r min turbine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya they set up an autocross here down at the fair grounds on sundays. but ill be doin the ones in calagry this summer.
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99b18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

about what rpm does that gt30 spool at?? i do alot of autocross. so i dont want something too lagy. if it spools by 2000rpm it should be fine tho. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well, if you want something that spools that fast, then disregard what i said earlier about a SC-61 or Gt 35r

you will need a pretty small turbo and dual ball bearing if possible, but you won't be able to make much power with something that small, maybe 300whp
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pimpintyperintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well, if you want something that spools that fast, then disregard what i said earlier about a SC-61 or Gt 35r

you will need a pretty small turbo and dual ball bearing if possible, but you won't be able to make much power with something that small, maybe 300whp</TD></TR></TABLE>

300hp. thats it?? what kind of boost would i be running to acheive that??
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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I dont think you get how desired boost for track will effect things for street driver..

I see alot wanting 2 major diff boost setting, on usually for the street and other fr track.

Truth be told you will also want a 'street turbo' and then when you go to the track you swap the boost level AND the turbo.

Something thats capable of 20+psi for track will be useless on the street and autoX will be rather unrewarding.

MORE POWER = MORE LAG

No rocket science involved Just get a setup for the track and use that on street too, use right foot as a power controller, not a boost controller limited boost. Just get 2 maps for street and race fuel

All IMO
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JonnyCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont think you get how desired boost for track will effect things for street driver..

I see alot wanting 2 major diff boost setting, on usually for the street and other fr track.

Truth be told you will also want a 'street turbo' and then when you go to the track you swap the boost level AND the turbo.

Something thats capable of 20+psi for track will be useless on the street and autoX will be rather unrewarding.

MORE POWER = MORE LAG

No rocket science involved Just get a setup for the track and use that on street too, use right foot as a power controller, not a boost controller limited boost. Just get 2 maps for street and race fuel

All IMO </TD></TR></TABLE>

ya sounds like a good idea. so what kinda boost should i be able to run on the street?? i was hoping for around 12psi on the pump gas
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