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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Is it just me or did Honda do it's best to put the oil filter in the worst and hardest to get place in the world? Seems like they smoked crack and had an epiphiney to place it in a one inch by one inch area...Anyone have any secrets? Remove it from the top side or under the car... I just spent 2 friggin hours trying to remove the oil filter from hell thanks to my oil filter wrench deciding to strip the filiter And finally had to resort to vice grips and bloody fingers..
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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reason: so they can do the oil change for you $$$
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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No problems from underneath. I have also taken off the front passenger side wheel and taken it off from the side. I use Honda filters, and the wrench I use looks like this



I just use a ratchet with an extension. The filter always comes off easily. It is very hard to strip the filter with this device, since as you turn it, it grips tighter
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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get one of these it make things much quicker
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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It is a PITA the best place that I've found, is to unscrew it from the passenger side wheel well. I just lay next to the car, and turn the wheel, and go at it from the side.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KnightHawkEP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get one of these it make things much quicker </TD></TR></TABLE>


this is the same thing that stripped the filter.. I finally got the filter off by using a set channel locks
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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Are you guys kidding? Honda has the easiest setup for changing the filter out of 95% of all other vehicles. Straight up from below the filter shouldn't have any problem by hand. If for some reason the filter is too tight to get by hand, which it shouldn't be cause that just means it's overtightened, I use the universal filter wrench as EtherGhost posted. I worked a quicklube for a couple of years and honda's always went the quickest.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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Honda is easy, you should start doing oil changes on toyotas and nissans.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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I do it from the top side. My 1st change was a PITA since I couldnt get that filter off for the life of me. Even using the sandpaper trick, all it did was tear the skin off my hand instead of turn the filter. That kinda hurt.

I had to resort to the screwdriver trick the first time. After that I just hand tighten it so I can remove it by hand as well.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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when it gets stuck, put a screwdriver on that bitch.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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If you are using aftermarket filters use the fram one with the grip stuff on the end. It actually works and makes getting the filter on/off much easier. Also Channel Lock now makes an oil filter wrench, looks like it could remove anything. But i would not want to use it putting a filter on.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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you arent supposed to use any wrench to put the filter on the car
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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The K20 motor has the easiest location to change the oil filter.

1. To make things less messy, first b4 anything grab a cardboard piece about 12Lx6 inches wide.
2. Place this from under the car right underneath the oil filter at a slant so the bottom of the cardboard is aiming right into the oil drain pan. ( this will act as a funnel for the oil to drain into the oil pan.)
3. Locate the oil filter with your eyes so u know where u will be placing you hands
4. Reach your hand behind the engine, from the TOP/ RIGHT side of the engine.
5. <U>HAND TURN </U>the oil filter off.
6. The oil will drain out onto the pre-cut cardboard positioned right beneath it and will drain right into the oil drainage pan, Instad of getting all over the axle, and underside member.
7. let drain.
8. lube up the new oil filter
9. reach behind the motor again and <U>HAND TIGHTEN </U>the oil filter till three quarter turns tight (dont over tighten, but just hand tight)
9. finished, remove the carboard that u postioned earlier underneath the filter and keep for future oil changes or discard.


thats it man, its not hard at all. i agree with the rest this is the easiest place honda could have postioned the oil filter


Modified by toolR at 12:19 AM 1/2/2005
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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haha it's not that bad...you should see where the oil filter located on a pontiac sunfire, because you can tell the engineers were smoking cracks
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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damn you guys must have some tiny *** hands..I can barely fit my hand on the filter from the top side...on all of the Toyotas I have seen (camry) etc the oil filter is right there in the front almost up by the valve cover..
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Seems to me like honda has the filters in a pretty easy location. Dont they sell relocation kits for the filter?
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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if the car is on a lift its eay as hell. thats what they went after
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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i hate where they put the filter when you take it off it drips oil on everything
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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oil change in your friends garage. that way when the oil go all over the place he has to clean it up.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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yeah the honda filter location really is kindof a pain.

I change my friends oil on his nissan maxima,
its like a 96 or 98 or something,

anyways, the filter is located totally on the bottom, right next to the oil drain plug!!

dude you dont even have to jack up the car or take the wheel off or anything to get to it.
Just reach under and yank the ****** off!!

really handy.
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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anyone have a pic of where the filter is located? i cant seem to find it
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Old Jul 2, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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^^ backside of the motor.

NEVER take your car to honda/jiffy lube/cheap oil change place, because you will never be able to get your filter off by hand. my dad took his 00 si to honda for an oil change and they friggin cranked that bitch on there so tight, i tried everything (except for the screw driver trick) and the thing is still on there.

buuuut, if you don't have a garage or driveway, i guess you don't really have a choice.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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I guess I agree with you about the location of the oil filter. I've just gotten used to it. I like PS1's suggestion about the cardboard funnel. I'll have to try that. I've been using paper towels to catch the mess from the filter, and that only catches about half of the oil that pours out.

I, however, strongly recommend you buy Honda's oil filter wrench. (If someone else doesn't post the part number, I'll hunt it up.) In the meantime, you'll just have to take my word for it that Honda's filter wrench fits <U>perfectly</U>, it doesn't slip, and removing the oil filter is completely hassle free.

As an aside, EP3s (and RSXs, to a certain extent) had an early reputation for difficulty removing the <U>first</U> oil filter. There's a reason for that: that one is installed by a machine, and, yes, it's a "snug" fit. Here again, however, the answer is Honda's OEM filter wrench. Push it on and turn the damn thing with a ratchet. It takes longer to write the words than do the work. Before installing a new filter, rub a thin film of oil on the rubber gasket, and you'll never have any trouble removing it.

PS1: I'm looking forward to trying your funnel idea. Good idea.

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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honda filter wrenches:
http://www.handaaccessories.com/civicsi.html

scroll down to the maintenance section
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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Default Re: Why did Honda put the oil filter in such pita location..aaarrgg!! (Halo)

LOL...

My K motor's in a DC2, and it's an absolute breeze getting to the oil filtererer.
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