I am very interested in buying a gokart frame and welding a 'Busa motor or other high-powered bike motor onto it just to see what it would do...does anyone have any clue as how to do this or where to get spare bike engines...

thanx

just a Krazy idea...

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=108403

 

Tryin for an award?

http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/i...arwin1995.html

The Arizona Highway Patrol were mystified when they came upon a pile of smoldering wreckage embedded in the side of a cliff rising above the road at the apex of a curve. The metal debris resembled the site of an airplane crash, but it turned out to be the vaporized remains of an automobile. The make of the vehicle was unidentifiable at the scene.

The folks in the lab finally figured out what it was, and pieced together the events that led up to its demise.

It seems that a former Air Force sergeant had somehow got hold of a JATO (Jet Assisted Take-Off) unit. JATO units are solid fuel rockets used to give heavy military transport airplanes an extra push for take-off from short airfields.

Dried desert lakebeds are the location of choice for breaking the world ground vehicle speed record. The sergeant took the JATO unit into the Arizona desert and found a long, straight stretch of road. He attached the JATO unit to his car, jumped in, accelerated to a high speed, and fired off the rocket.
The facts, as best as could be determined, are as follows:

The operator was driving a 1967 Chevy Impala. He ignited the JATO unit approximately 3.9 miles from the crash site. This was established by the location of a prominently scorched and melted strip of asphalt. The vehicle quickly reached a speed of between 250 and 300 mph and continued at that speed, under full power, for an additional 20-25 seconds. The soon-to-be pilot experienced G-forces usually reserved for dog-fighting F-14 jocks under full afterburners.

The Chevy remained on the straight highway for approximately 2.6 miles (15-20 seconds) before the driver applied the brakes, completely melting them, blowing the tires, and leaving thick rubber marks on the road surface. The vehicle then became airborne for an additional 1.3 miles, impacted the cliff face at a height of 125 feet, and left a blackened crater 3 feet deep in the rock.

Most of the driver's remains were not recovered; however, small fragments of bone, teeth, and hair were extracted from the crater, and fingernail and bone shards were removed from a piece of debris believed to be a portion of the steering wheel.

Ironically a still-legible bumper sticker was found, reading
"How do you like my driving? Dial 1-800-EAT-****."



[Modified by figment, 9:42 PM 1/7/2002]

 

it definitely pays to do the math.

as far as a busa engine in a go cart, i have thought of doing something like this, but it would include a full tubular steel rollcage and 5 point harness for the pilot (i dont think 'driver' quite describes the role of the person in this vehicle.)

but once you encapsulate the pilot in steel, you're heavier than a 'busa, so the pucker factor comes down.

my goal would be to have something street legal that would have the handling and performance of nothing else on the street (on 4 wheels anyhow).

 

There is no need to stick a bike engine on a kart, you can get a kart to run pretty fast with a worked Briggs & Stratton. When I was back in school I got into karting in a very big way (like most stock car drivers, why Dad started out with karts). My Dad and my uncle could build one hell of a kart engine. They would start out with a stock B&S engine, disassemble it, check it for defective parts, mill the deck surfaces, machine the head surfaces, hone the cylinders, replace the stock cam with a custom grounded one, do a valve job, custom fabricated exhaust, ported and polished the intakes and exhaust, calibrated the ignition timing, etc. Their engines ran like hell and they were nearly indestructible.

 

Try organized kart road racing. We run on most of the big sports car tracks.
100cc Yamaha 2-cycle entry level clutch (single speed) karts will hit 95 MPH on the straights. Followup clutch karts hit 100 MPH+ reaching 140 MPH for the twin 100cc open alcohol engines. 125cc shifters (MX bike engine) reach over 125 MPH. 250cc shifters (again MX bike engines) reach over 150 MPH. Even entry level can lap a track faster than many sports cars (including most stock Type-Rs). The only thing faster in lap times than the 250's would be the high powered open wheel racers. This is laying down a couple inches of the ground. Can't get any more thilling than this.

As for the Hayabusa engine, much too heavy. Weight distribution would be way off, certainly crash, like the guy with the JATO powered car.

125+ MPH road racing (laydown) shifter go-karts
2001 black ITR

 

I have seen gocarts with cbr 600 motors all the time. The 600 motors are very popular with the college engineering departments. They make a complete chassis and tweak the motor and make mini- indy cars out of them.

The most creative thing I have seen with a bike motor was a Yamaha banshee with a cbr F4 600 motor in it. It had a full custom tubular steel chassis with extended rear end (kinda like an extension on a swingarm). It was for sale on ebay a couple months back.

The guy raced it at the track and was in the 90+mph in the 1/4. I am thinking that would be bad azz to have a 100hp 4 wheeler to ride wheelies on and jump fat azz jumps

Either way, If you are interested in a complete running 600 engine/tranny and all the electronics for a project hit me up.

It was dynoed at 92hp. Not bad for a little ole f2 motor

 

yeah, I was hoping that it would be heavier than a Busa because the things are pretty fast as it stands...I was thinking just a little car to ride around on in the neighborhood on weekends to impress the kids...a little welding here and there some brakes from ai don't know what and some kinda suspension...I am at the infancy stages of this thing...

 

...or just make an Indy-type frame with the roll bar jutting up behind your head about another 6-8 inches to protect you in a rollover...so you won't have to build such an enormous frame that would outweigh the motor's power capabilities.

just a KRAZY idea

 

Yup. The CBR600 is the most popular motor in the Society of Automotive Engineers' collegiate Formula SAE competition. Some teams add a turbo.

here's more info
http://www.sae.org/students/formula.htm

I would definitely read about some of these cars before designing your kart. Especially since you'll probably run even more power than they do (usually around 90hp max, 70 avg. due to 18mm intake restrictor and 610cc limit) [IMG][/IMG]


[Modified by NegativeLift, 3:46 PM 1/13/2002]